Metallica question
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Goreripper
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Quotes about Les Claypool's audition (not too literal though):
Les: "I auditioned and they said: "You're not used to playing this sort of stuff are you?" So I went: "No, you wanna jam on some Isley Brothers tunes?"
"I don't think they appreciated the joke."
Les: "I auditioned and they said: "You're not used to playing this sort of stuff are you?" So I went: "No, you wanna jam on some Isley Brothers tunes?"
"I don't think they appreciated the joke."
Blitzkrieg
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Sydo
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spawn said:I think thats wrong Sydo
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=28578Dave Mustaine said:
Glug.
James always played guitar though Sydo I think Dave meant that he played all the leads and stuff. Metallica started with Lars and James playing together, so James has played guitar from the start
I think Dave meant that he played all the leads and stuff. Metallica started with Lars and James playing together, so James has played guitar from the start http://www.encycmet.com/biography/
Theres a pretty extensive bio on that site that covers it all if you want to read it all (its fucking long!)
Theres a pretty extensive bio on that site that covers it all if you want to read it all (its fucking long!)
to say that Dave was the only guitar player is just silly.
Sure they would've tried a few different arrangements out... but he's saying it as if he played all the guitar for Metallica, WHICH IS JUST WRONG.
DEAD WRONG.
Sure they would've tried a few different arrangements out... but he's saying it as if he played all the guitar for Metallica, WHICH IS JUST WRONG.
DEAD WRONG.
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Metallica was formed by Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield in the fall of 1981. Ulrich (who originally came to the US to play tennis) had, during that summer, met Brian Slagel of Metal Blade records and had secured an appeareance on an upcoming compilation called Metal Massacre but had no band. He quickly found Hetfield, who was playing in Leather Charm at the time, and one day in December of 1981, they recorded the rhythm tracks to a remake of a Leather Charm song, ``Hit the Lights``. Guitarist Lloyd Grant (Defcon (US)) recorded a solo in January, 1982, and the song appeared on Metal Massacre in February.
Permanent guitarist Dave Mustaine (Megadeth) was brought in in February of 1982, and a bassist, Ron McGovney was found. Ron was James's roommate, and James taught him to play bass, so that the band could play live. The first live show was on March 14th, at Radio City Music Hall in Anaheim. James did only vocals, and Dave was the single guitarist. The band at this point had several rehearsal tapes floating about, but then in response to one of those being pressed to vinyl by Bongus Loadus records, decided to record their first demo, with the Grant version of Hit the Lights and two covers. This demo was first given out at the March 27th, 1982 gig at the Whisky, when they opened for Saxon. A vocalist, Sammy Dijon of the band Ruthless, was in for a few rehearsals, but no actual gigs.
Two more studio demos were recorded in 1982, one in April and one in July. On April 23rd, 1982, guitarist ``Damien Phillips`` (real name: Brad Parker) played one gig, before quitting, because Dave wouldn't let him do duelling leads. James took over as second guitarist live from then on. Extensive live gigging occured, including one show at Lars's high school on May 25th at which the final attendance was zero. On May 28th, Jef Warner was on vocals, but this show seems to have been a glorified rehearsal. He sang only that one gig. Tygers of Pan Tang vocalist Jesse Cox was considered, and John Bush was also offered the gig, but neither accepted.
A live demo was recorded on November 29th, 1982, on a road trip to San Francisco. This road trip would prove useful, as the opener for Metallica on November 29th was a band called Exodus with Kirk Hammett on guitar. Also, Metallica attended a Trauma (US) gig, with Cliff Burton on bass, and immediately tried to convince Cliff to join Metallica.
Cliff was convinced to join, on the condition that Metallica move to San Francisco. Since LA was filled with Motley Crue types, they agreed. Cliff's first gig was March 5th, 1983. Ron McGovney was later seen in Phantasm. Problems with Dave Mustaine and the rest of the band arose in late March on a road trip to the east coast. Dave was given a bus ticket back home and unceremoniously released, while Kirk Hammett flew in and the band did not miss a gig. At this time, the band stayed with Anthrax and from what the band has said, it was very tough living, as all their little money went towards the band.
The first album, ``Kill 'em All``, was recorded for Megaforce Records in the summer of 1983, and after some touring, they cut a four song demo in October. They contemplated asking vocalist John Bush, now of Armored Saint, to join but then Hetfield decided to take over vocals once and for all. The second album, ``Ride The Lightning``, came out in the spring of 1984, featuring riffs from Dave Mustaine and also Tom Hunting via Kirk Hammett.
Work on a third album began in the summer of 1985, and the album, ``Master Of Puppets``, was released in the spring of 1986. When James Hetfield broke his arm in a skateboarding accident in July, 1986, six weeks of gigs featured roadie John Marshall on rhythm guitar (he would later join Metal Church). On September 25th, James was back. One more gig was played on the 26th, and then on the morning of the 27th, their tour bus hit a patch of black ice and flipped over, killing bassist Cliff Burton. (Morbid aside: he and Kirk had switched bunks just a few hours before.)
The band decided to continue, and began searching for a new bassist. Among those that tried out was Kirk Hammett's friend, bass freak Les Claypool (Blind Illusion, Primus), who was rejected because he played too well. In the end, Flotsam & Jetsam bassist Jason Newsted was brought in in November, being officially sworn in at a restaurant in Phoenix called Tommy's Joint. The ``...And Justice for All`` album was recorded in 1988, with a serious lack of bass presence, and then a world tour followed in 1989.
In 1989, Metallica was nominated to a grammy in "Best Heavy Metal Performance Of The Year" alongside AC/DC, Iggy Pop and Jethro Tull. Everybody was expecting for Metallica to take the award, but surprisingly, the award went to classic rockers Jethro Tull. If you look closely, you can tell from the look in Alice Cooper's face (Alice presented the award along with Lita Ford) that he finds it VERY surprising.
The year after though, justice took place as Metallica received a grammy award for "Best Heavy Metal Performance Of The Year". When they received it, Lars Ulrich said: "First of all we wanna thank... as you guys were expecting... We wanna thank Jethro Tull for not putting out an album this year".
In 1991 the fifth Metallica album was released and this time they had a new producer. Flemming Rasmussen (who have also produced for Pretty Maids and Blind Guardian among others), who had produced the previous 3 albums were out, and new producer were Bob Rock. The new album was selftitled and had a much more commercial feel to it and sold 20 million copies worldwide.
Permanent guitarist Dave Mustaine (Megadeth) was brought in in February of 1982, and a bassist, Ron McGovney was found. Ron was James's roommate, and James taught him to play bass, so that the band could play live. The first live show was on March 14th, at Radio City Music Hall in Anaheim. James did only vocals, and Dave was the single guitarist. The band at this point had several rehearsal tapes floating about, but then in response to one of those being pressed to vinyl by Bongus Loadus records, decided to record their first demo, with the Grant version of Hit the Lights and two covers. This demo was first given out at the March 27th, 1982 gig at the Whisky, when they opened for Saxon. A vocalist, Sammy Dijon of the band Ruthless, was in for a few rehearsals, but no actual gigs.
Two more studio demos were recorded in 1982, one in April and one in July. On April 23rd, 1982, guitarist ``Damien Phillips`` (real name: Brad Parker) played one gig, before quitting, because Dave wouldn't let him do duelling leads. James took over as second guitarist live from then on. Extensive live gigging occured, including one show at Lars's high school on May 25th at which the final attendance was zero. On May 28th, Jef Warner was on vocals, but this show seems to have been a glorified rehearsal. He sang only that one gig. Tygers of Pan Tang vocalist Jesse Cox was considered, and John Bush was also offered the gig, but neither accepted.
A live demo was recorded on November 29th, 1982, on a road trip to San Francisco. This road trip would prove useful, as the opener for Metallica on November 29th was a band called Exodus with Kirk Hammett on guitar. Also, Metallica attended a Trauma (US) gig, with Cliff Burton on bass, and immediately tried to convince Cliff to join Metallica.
Cliff was convinced to join, on the condition that Metallica move to San Francisco. Since LA was filled with Motley Crue types, they agreed. Cliff's first gig was March 5th, 1983. Ron McGovney was later seen in Phantasm. Problems with Dave Mustaine and the rest of the band arose in late March on a road trip to the east coast. Dave was given a bus ticket back home and unceremoniously released, while Kirk Hammett flew in and the band did not miss a gig. At this time, the band stayed with Anthrax and from what the band has said, it was very tough living, as all their little money went towards the band.
The first album, ``Kill 'em All``, was recorded for Megaforce Records in the summer of 1983, and after some touring, they cut a four song demo in October. They contemplated asking vocalist John Bush, now of Armored Saint, to join but then Hetfield decided to take over vocals once and for all. The second album, ``Ride The Lightning``, came out in the spring of 1984, featuring riffs from Dave Mustaine and also Tom Hunting via Kirk Hammett.
Work on a third album began in the summer of 1985, and the album, ``Master Of Puppets``, was released in the spring of 1986. When James Hetfield broke his arm in a skateboarding accident in July, 1986, six weeks of gigs featured roadie John Marshall on rhythm guitar (he would later join Metal Church). On September 25th, James was back. One more gig was played on the 26th, and then on the morning of the 27th, their tour bus hit a patch of black ice and flipped over, killing bassist Cliff Burton. (Morbid aside: he and Kirk had switched bunks just a few hours before.)
The band decided to continue, and began searching for a new bassist. Among those that tried out was Kirk Hammett's friend, bass freak Les Claypool (Blind Illusion, Primus), who was rejected because he played too well. In the end, Flotsam & Jetsam bassist Jason Newsted was brought in in November, being officially sworn in at a restaurant in Phoenix called Tommy's Joint. The ``...And Justice for All`` album was recorded in 1988, with a serious lack of bass presence, and then a world tour followed in 1989.
In 1989, Metallica was nominated to a grammy in "Best Heavy Metal Performance Of The Year" alongside AC/DC, Iggy Pop and Jethro Tull. Everybody was expecting for Metallica to take the award, but surprisingly, the award went to classic rockers Jethro Tull. If you look closely, you can tell from the look in Alice Cooper's face (Alice presented the award along with Lita Ford) that he finds it VERY surprising.
The year after though, justice took place as Metallica received a grammy award for "Best Heavy Metal Performance Of The Year". When they received it, Lars Ulrich said: "First of all we wanna thank... as you guys were expecting... We wanna thank Jethro Tull for not putting out an album this year".
In 1991 the fifth Metallica album was released and this time they had a new producer. Flemming Rasmussen (who have also produced for Pretty Maids and Blind Guardian among others), who had produced the previous 3 albums were out, and new producer were Bob Rock. The new album was selftitled and had a much more commercial feel to it and sold 20 million copies worldwide.
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Summer 81 Lars went to the UK to follow Diamond Head around for 3 months on tour. On his return he secured a deal to record a track for the Metal Blade compilation Metal Massacre. Due to the fact that he didn't yet have a band, he quickly began contacting people. The three members he managed to put together were:
o Lars Ulrich (Drums)
o James Hetfield (Vocals; Rhythm and Bass Guitars)
o Lloyd grant (Lead guitar)
Metallica's only appearance as a 5 piece happened on April 23 with Damien Phillips (aka Jeff Warner). James did not want to have to sing and play guitar so the band were looking for a vocalist. James Hetfield played his first gig on rhythm guitar on May 25 at Lars High school at Back Bay Costa Mesa California. It was at this point that Dave Mustaine joined the band he came to replace Lloyd Grant and played lead guitar, the joining with Dave Mustaine brought the band allot more equipment which they needed at that time.
Why would James be the guitarist for a while, then stop, then start again? Where did you get that bio from Goreripper?
Theres about 50 Metallica timelines online and ive never found one saying that Dave was the sole guitarist of the band, though theres some saying James only wanted to play guitar and not sing. The only thing i can think of is that maybe Dave played guitar solely at that show for some reason?
o Lars Ulrich (Drums)
o James Hetfield (Vocals; Rhythm and Bass Guitars)
o Lloyd grant (Lead guitar)
Metallica's only appearance as a 5 piece happened on April 23 with Damien Phillips (aka Jeff Warner). James did not want to have to sing and play guitar so the band were looking for a vocalist. James Hetfield played his first gig on rhythm guitar on May 25 at Lars High school at Back Bay Costa Mesa California. It was at this point that Dave Mustaine joined the band he came to replace Lloyd Grant and played lead guitar, the joining with Dave Mustaine brought the band allot more equipment which they needed at that time.
Why would James be the guitarist for a while, then stop, then start again? Where did you get that bio from Goreripper?
Theres about 50 Metallica timelines online and ive never found one saying that Dave was the sole guitarist of the band, though theres some saying James only wanted to play guitar and not sing. The only thing i can think of is that maybe Dave played guitar solely at that show for some reason?
In that quote Dave is saying he was Metallicas only guitar player, which is clearly wrong, but if you can find a quote from James saying he never played guitar, ill be quite happy to bow before Sydos greatness
Blitzkrieg
Master Exploder
I think there was a period where James stopped playing guitar to concentrate on vocals, and also a point where he considered not being the vocalist so he could concentrate on guitars, as he was struggling doing both in the early years.
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