Metronome

arcana83

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May 8, 2009
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It may sound easy to play to a metronome but god damn its so hard to keep in time! damn it. (*&!)( anyone here practise with a metronome?
 
yes it is hard in the beginning but you will get used to it.
if you want to start recording, program your drums or use real drummer, and want your recording to sound tight you must be tight as possible your self first otherwise your recordings will sound NOT GOOD at all.
so to answer your question do the guys here play/practice to metronome? yes they did and probably still do.
 
Being an AE based forum, one would hope every single musician here that hopes to record something that doesn't sound like ass practices to a metronome.
Just my opinion, unless the music is intentionally meant to be loose in it's feel, people don't have any business recording stuff if they can't play a metronome. It's 2009, a day and age where metronomes can be found anywhere, there is no excuse not to have a good sense of time.
 
It may sound easy to play to a metronome but god damn its so hard to keep in time! damn it. (*&!)( anyone here practise with a metronome?

I record to a click EVERY TIME, and I insist bands I produce do also. Unfortunately, very very few of them are capable of doing so.
From both a drummers', and a production point of view, if you can't play to a click, you shouldn't be in a studio.
 
yeah some total assholes go like "nah man a click track kills the feeling, I'll do it at my own pace", yeah sure if the feeling you're going for is sloppy crappy recording feeling

Arcana, you can start by practicing clapping to a click, the slower the harder, when you clap right in time the click track will dissappear, buried underneath your clap (it has to be a click, not a beep). Do this regularly, changing tempos after a few minutes. if you don't have one, use this http://www.metronomeonline.com/

I find singers to be the ones with the biggest timing problems most of the time, specially extreme metal singers, those lazy fucks can't sing for real (just gurgling which isn't that much of an art or technique really), you would think at least they can sing in time. ha.
There are exceptions of course, I'm judging from personal experience, and I'm the biggest fan of extreme metal (my band is called frigging Intestinal Infection after all) so I'm not trying to bash singers of the genre (I'm one of them)
 
When I started off playing the guitar 7 years back, I can recall practicing by tapping my feet to tempo until I got introduced to the metronome during my first recording. The feet tapping stuff made playing to click super-easy for me as I was stressing my motor skills a little more. I never had any problems playing to a click later on.

If you're a guitarist, swap between your left and right feet. You'll see how it affects the coordination on your left and right hands individually. ;)
 
When I started off playing the guitar 7 years back, I can recall practicing by tapping my feet to tempo until I got introduced to the metronome during my first recording. The feet tapping stuff made playing to click super-easy for me as I was stressing my motor skills a little more. I never had any problems playing to a click later on.

If you're a guitarist, swap between your left and right feet. You'll see how it affects the coordination on your left and right hands individually. ;)

i use to do this all the time and i can record to a click almost perfectly.
 
change the sample of the click to a cowbell and watch the musicians change their attitude in seconds.
 
its true though
listen to appetite for destruction
then listen to the intro of all shall perish - wage slaves
tell me that intro doesnt kick unprecedented amounts of ass

i am going to do this next band i record.
 
i've also noticed that some drummers can groove better to different click patterns. Instead of just straight 8th notes or whatever, adding in a shaker or something that shuffles along with it seems to work.

For some reason I have a hard time with any metronome that puts emphasis on the downbeat click. I prefer to have each click sound indentical.
 
For my own bands stuff we change the time signature to 1/4 - gets rid of the emphasis, seems to work better for everybody.
Most of the bands I record are doom/ stoner metal bands, outside of my own band not one band has let me record them with a click!
 
i've also noticed that some drummers can groove better to different click patterns. Instead of just straight 8th notes or whatever, adding in a shaker or something that shuffles along with it seems to work.

saw a cool video a while back that demonstrated this philosophy when approaching hip-hop beats.

basically, this guy starts playing the typical jazz swung ride cymbal pattern, we all know what we're talking about here, im sure, no need to elaborate
then he adds in the kick on the 1st and 3rd beats
then the snare on the 2nd and 4th
that's grooving out already quite nicely, then he switched the swung ride cymbal to straight hi hat on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th beats.
GROOVED AS A MOTHERFUCKER.

i have embraced that shit ever since i saw it.
 
For my own bands stuff we change the time signature to 1/4 - gets rid of the emphasis, seems to work better for everybody.
Most of the bands I record are doom/ stoner metal bands, outside of my own band not one band has let me record them with a click!

see i find that amusing
even stoner rock/doom bands should play to a click IMO.
that sort of stoner rock looseness everyone goes on about is never when it comes to tightness like TIMING tightness, it's about FEEL tightness.
listen to kyuss, that shits tight as a motherfucker timing wise, but still loose as hell. its possible to have both.
 
I agree it's funny, I'd prefer if they let me do it to a click and the best recordings still come from the bands being tight as fuck - something the click only helps with.