Alpha, you're a traitor, but more on that later. Right now let's take a look at your pathetic rebuttal of 5thSeason's post.
"There's an easy alternative to the Saudi Royal Family- it's called creating a positive image of America to the Saudi public. Currently, much of the world sees the US (correctly) as arrogant, stupid, obese, greedy warmongers. Rather than improving the already tenuous relationships between the two countries via respect for Saudi beleifs, monetary aid, and other acts of kindness, Bush's reckless and unilateralistic policies have dashed relationships to an incredible low. As too greater oil prices, a radical Muslim state could very well drive oil prices up, but the impact of an intelligent, democratic regime would likely have very little (if any) impact on oil prices. Ask an economist."
This is some idiotic, fairy-tale bullshit. Acts of kindness, give me a fucking break. We will not appeal to the Saudi public in any way until any and all of our support for Israel stops. To the more radical sections of the population, we won't appeal to them until we're all dead. Respect for Saudi beliefs? Right. That's how we'll improve our "tenuous" relationship with the Saudi government. But wait- I thought we were butt buddies with the Saudi royals? Whoops, a little bit of a contradiction there. And an intelligent, democratic regime won't improve the oil situation? This assertion is completely asinine for reasons that are painfully obvious. Nothing that you stated in this paragraph makes any sense. Moving on...
"and both deserve to be "spurted against". The war on Iraq has cost thousands of lives, and for what purpose? To spend innumerable billions to keep a standing army in Iraq, all the while leaving the US vulnerable at home? The current Iraqi government won't last past a few years until a radical muslim takeover, thanks in large part to the utterly assenine way the wars in Iraq in Afganistan thanks to you-know-who."
Right, thousands of lives, billions of dollars, boohoo. The war in Iraq has not left us, in any way, more vulnerable at home. I don't want to hear about diverted funds or intelligence resources, we've got plenty, this is a typical baseless liberal argument. If your firemen don't have chemical suits, blame your congressmen. As for your radical Muslim takeover, thanks for enlightening all of us with your immense tactical expertise. Besides, a radical Muslim takeover would be a good thing, wouldn't it, what with their just and righteous cause and all. And what the fuck do you mean by "spurted against?" Maybe you really did grab those dudes' asses.
"Meanwhile, the so called "Patriot Act" should in fact be called the "Xenophobe Act" because that's exactly what it is. It does little to catch terrorists, according to Time and The Economist, while frustrating hundreds of thousands of perfectly innocent immigrants. My Spanish teacher (who is Columbian) hasn't visited, or been visited by, her parents since 9/11 because of these uneeded laws, and her mail seems to always be opened already. I also has a remarkable similarity to the infamous Alien and Sedition acts of 1798 (I think)."
You think wrong. The Alien and Sedition acts involved prosecuting and deporting people who talked shit about the government. The Patriot Act gives wider surveillance powers to law enforcement. It does NOT allow the prosecution of dissenters, or any similar nonsense. Please don't be stupid enough not to recognize the distinction, although I fully expect you to be. And God forbid we inconveniece an immigrant just for the sake of protecting fat, lazy, stupid, arrogant Americans' lives. Your teacher's mail is opened already? That is fucking laughable. What a load of crap. I don't believe a word of this shit, and I don't think anyone else with half a brain will either.
"And did you find all this out through an unbiased, politically neutral source?"
Yeah, Michael Moore told me. Does such a thing exist?
As for LRD, I don't know shit about that, so I won't bother. But the Bush stealing the election thing is fucking tired. You don't like the electoral college? Tough shit, it's there for a reason, and the 2000 election was entirely constitutional and therefore legitimate. And I'm oh, so sure that no liberal politicians have ever pulled any strings, or worked any connections, over the course of their careers.
As for the Minutemen comparison, look up the damn quote. It's not hard to find, it is fairly recent (obviously.) It was originally posted on his own fucking website. Would such a statement really bother you anyway? Hell, you just said basically the same thing. You're saying Islamic terrorists have a justified, righteous cause. Do you consider the 9/11 attacks a righteous, justified act? Just answer the question. Let's see if you have the balls to spell out "I am a traitor" in plain fucking English.
As far as our country being ignorant, that's debatable. But you're against us being big and rich? Honestly, that shit is so weak. If you want small and poor, move to Cuba, you spoiled little prick. Over there, the evil preps at your high school won't spread homoerotic falsehoods about you, I promise.
Spectralsorrow, Osama bin Laden isn't related to the Saudi royal family. Where the fuck did you get the idea that they were related? Oh yeah, you don't know shit. Osama was not "given leeway" in an effort to appease the Saudis. Dating all the way back to the senior Bush's administration, Osama and the Saudi royals have been at odds. Therefore, nothing in your rebuttal makes any fucking sense. The Saudis were also strongly against the Iraq war. Funny that big Mike never mentions that in his film.
TB666, the responses in that thread were incredibly weak. Just more of the same old assertions. I was amused that SoleRaziel or whatever the fuck criticized Hitchens for his "tired right-wing justification" for Iraqi civilian casualties, despite the fact that he is a staunch left-winger. Way to do your research people. Nice try. I would go through his/her shit point by point, but this post is long enough already.
You people can do better than this. Then again, probably not.
