ok...i tried to do a search on the subject but haven't found anything, but i did a test the day before yesterday with mic'in my ride from the top...and then from the bottom just so i can do a samples for menber XeS....well i noticed that while i had the mic the same difference from the ride and pointed towards the point where the stick hits the ride.....the bottom rings more.....just thought i would share that with you guys. what do you guys prefer...the ping and ring, or just the ping?