Mid/sideastering?

RichMinerva

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I have literally only just heard about this ashamedly to say :(
at the risk of sounding noobtarded
What in gods name does it to
 
I'm in exactly the same position :(

From what I've gathered, it's creating a stereo spread of the same track by sending and panning hard left and hard right. Whilst keeping the mono track. Or something. I actually haven't a fucking clue.

I found this article but it's 3am and it just frazzled me.
 
It allows you to process either the mono signal in a mix or the sides separately. I.E. turning up/down just the kick/bass/snare/vocal in a mix or raising the guitars without affecting what's down the middle. There's other things you can do with M/S before the mastering stage as well. Perhaps there was too much stereo verb printed on a mono track (like a snare), so you decrease the sides until you're satisfied.
 
Like the name implies, it's just about treating the mid and sides differently. Same basic principle as M/S micing, lots of info on the web.

Unless you're mastering other peoples material, which I assume isn't the case (hence the thread), M/S processing won't probably be of much use to you since you can address the problems in the mixing phase.
 
Yeah, here's an example : let's say something like guitars is clashing with the bass grit at 3khz, then you can remove it on the sides but keep it in the center.
 
Yeah, here's an example : let's say something like guitars is clashing with the bass grit at 3khz, then you can remove it on the sides but keep it in the center.

...which, in the mixing stage, you could do a lot easier without possibly fucking up the sonic image by just EQ'ing the guitars :)

You could, however, profit from M/S EQ in case of troublesome OH micing or such, but I've never found myself needing that.
 
...which, in the mixing stage, you could do a lot easier without possibly fucking up the sonic image by just EQ'ing the guitars :)

You could, however, profit from M/S EQ in case of troublesome OH micing or such, but I've never found myself needing that.

I agree, i think its main purpose is to mix a stereo track once its too late to go back to the mixing stage or if you wanna suck a vocal, kick etc. out of a track
 
Main advantages with M/S stuff I have noticed is when doing other peoples mixes, when doing your own, you can fix the problems in the mix instead of highpassing the sides or using a mono maker plugin for the 0-100hz region if the subdrops are for some reason panned to the right or something like that (has happened to me a few times when I used a mono plugin instead of a stereo plugin in cubase on stereo tracks).
 
...which, in the mixing stage, you could do a lot easier without possibly fucking up the sonic image by just EQ'ing the guitars :)

You could, however, profit from M/S EQ in case of troublesome OH micing or such, but I've never found myself needing that.

I meant doing this in the mixing stage. I don't use it all that much. Actually I mix in mono about a third of the time haha.