my songs sound rubbish in itunes

[poisoned dreams]

rite heres the problem a was mixin a song last nite everythin sounded good in pro-tools on my moniters and cheap speakers a have set up to, so a bounce the file and put it into itunes.But when a listen back to the file the drums where far away and the guitars clipped,so a plays the file through quicktime everythin is fine can sumone help y itumes is doin this? the file is still .wav


cheers

 

[-Gavin-]

Itunes is wank.

There is zero excuse to use it, EVER.

 

[Machinated]

I love iTunes - never had a problem with it and for the most part it has been pretty stable. Have you checked your playback settings and made sure you have no effects turned on?

 

[-Gavin-]

To be honest, i jsut wanna see if james kicks me in the face.

 

[ashgallows]

itunes internal e.q. turned on? Also I don't know if you have a mac or not, but on my p.c. pro tools and itunes do not like each other. itunes oes this weird skippy thing, i even made the quiktime changes digi said to to make ti work...nothing changed.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

I pretty much hate itunes on PC especially since the last major version change. On mac it's better but as of late I think itunes has been kind of wankerish.

 

[Noumenon]

It's a memory hog on PC
A friend saw me using iTunes on my mac and had to have it. hehe.
He ended up buying more ram.

 

[James Murphy]

iTunes is, simpy put, the best media management and playback software available for free anywhere on any platform... tried them all.. and iTunes destorys them, hands down.. however, you do have to actually learn something about the software... if you have simply tried it without bothering to learn what any of the "preferenced" [sic] options or on-screen buttons beyond play/stop/skip/pause actually do, then you are wee-todd-did, and should not be allowed near computers of any sort, ever. And you'll have to grasp the difference between an album and a playlist, and grasp the usefulness and power of playlists, and also when you need one and when you don't.

you do need to also make sure to turn off the iTunes store and mini-store crap, like the little arrows that direct you to the store and the store panel that pops up by default at the bottom... they are annoying, and luckily very easy to turn off permanently. Sonically you will also be wanting to turn of Sound Check, Sound Enhancer, and the EQ... i turn off the Crossfade feature as well because it annoys me. with all that done, and a few minutes invested in how to use the organizational genius of iTunes, and you'll never look back... PC or Mac... doesn't matter. i challenge yer asses to name one thing that "sucks" about iTunes that i can't point out that it's just you being a window-licker.

it's on, bitches.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Oh yeah james because in the 2 years that I have been using Itunes I have no clue how to use it (sarcasim 100%).

This app strait up blows on windows.

 

[James Murphy]

Oh yeah james because in the 2 years that I have been using Itunes I have no clue how to use it (sarcasim 100%).

This app strait up blows on windows.

runs great on all my Macs, AND our family's crap-ass HP Pavilion PC.

 

[HeadCrusher]

PC or Mac... doesn't matter.

Oh man, I never expected you to say that!

And you'll have to grasp the difference between an album and a playlist, and grasp the usefulness and power of playlists, and also when you need one and when you don't.

So, please enlighten us!

i challenge yer asses to name one thing that "sucks" about iTunes that i can't point out that it's just you being a window-licker.

Well, then please tell me why it won't let me sort my Podcasts by lenght e.g. if I wanna find something short quickly if I don't have a lot of time to waste.

(Don't wanna be an ass, just trying to learn something!)

Oh yeah, and just when I started it right now it asked me to choose a Media Library - I don't have a clue why, it never did that before and I used it earlier that day already. Now if that's not a coincidence..

And yeah, it takes up a whole lot of RAM..

 

[nwright]

iTunes is, simpy put, the best media management and playback software available for free anywhere on any platform... tried them all.. and iTunes destorys them, hands down.. however, you do have to actually learn something about the software... if you have simply tried it without bothering to learn what any of the "preferenced" (sic) options or on-screen buttons beyond play/stop/skip/pause acutally do, then you are wee-todd-did, and should not be allowed near computers of any sort, ever. And you'll have to grasp the difference between an album and a playlist, and grasp the usefulness and power of playlists, and also when you need one and when you don't.

you do need to also make sure to turn of the itunes store and mini-store crap, like the little arrows that direct you to the store and the store panel that pops up by default at the bottom... they are annoying, and luckily very easy to turn off permanently. Sonically you will also be wanting to turn of Sound Check, Sound Enhancer, and the EQ... i turn off the Crossfade feature as well because it annoys me. with all that done, and a few minutes invested in how to use the organizational genius of iTunes, and you'll never look back... PC or Mac... doesn't matter. i challenge yer asses to name one thing that "sucks" about iTunes that i can't point out that it's just you being a window-licker.

it's on, bitches.

I wonder how many iTunes users do all that just to listen to the music, though.

I have never used iTunes, so I have no clue what any of ya's are talking about, anyway...

 

[James Murphy]

So, please enlighten us! Well, then please tell me why it won't let me sort my Podcasts by lenght e.g. if I wanna find something short quickly if I don't have a lot of time to waste.

(Don't wanna be an ass, just trying to learn something!)

Oh yeah, and just when I started it right now it asked me to choose a Media Library - I don't have a clue why, it never did that before and I used it earlier that day already. Now if that's not a coincidence..

And yeah, it takes up a whole lot of RAM..

i've never noticed how much ram it uses and tbh i don't really care... it's never been an issue for me... do you guys all really have that little ram in your computers that it's really something you even notice?? wow.. i guess i have supercomputers or something.

Ok, the thing most new users don't get about playlists in iTunes is that you have to put whatever you want to burn to CD in a playlist, or create a new one by dragging what you want to burn to the playlist column... you can't burn CD's directly from the main library listing, so you create a playlist for it.. very simple.. just grab the album name in the "album" column or track listing and drag it to an emply area in the Playlist column.. then burn it.... of course i'm talking about music you've just mixed for your clients... not piracy :Smug:. the playlists are just "references" to the library contents you put in them, not copies of the files themselves, so deleting a playlist does not delete the contents from your library... it only deletes the playlist entry from the playlist column. you do have the option to force delete any playlist contents from the library when you delete the list if you want to though.

also, you can sort your podcasts by time... and i'll show you how in my next post.. it's quite easy really.... just uploading a screen-shot.

 

[James Murphy]

I wonder how many iTunes users do all that just to listen to the music, though.

I have never used iTunes, so I have no clue what any of ya's are talking about, anyway...

takes 20 seconds, or less. one pass through the preferences, which is the least anyone should do with literally any program they use, period. are you saying that it's a given that programs should all be dumbed down for window-lickers? well it is actually... by default it's set up with all that shit turned on, exactly for the people who "just wanna listen to music".. and want to listen with all tracks at about the same volume (Sound Check) and have it hyped up for them (Sound Enhancer & EQ), and want to be able to quickly find and buy 99¢ songs (Store).

but this is a forum of AE's and folks who want to be AE's.... soooooo...... take the 20 fuckin' seconds.. because if you are, or want to be, an AE you really should care enough to not "just listen", but to listen critically. And for that my friend you will want to be turning off any EQ and/or psycho-acoustic bullshit processes designed to dumb down the experience for the plebes. it really is a great organizational tool for your finished mixes and reference material, as well as for your music, videos, movies, podcasts, TV Shows, and Radio that you listen to/watch strictly for pleasure. it's also, btw, one of the best apps for converting your mixes to virtually any mp3 or AAC bitrate you want, as well as a few other codecs, that i've found.... for free anyway.

 

[Pman]

rite heres the problem a was mixin a song last nite everythin sounded good in pro-tools on my moniters and cheap speakers a have set up to, so a bounce the file and put it into itunes.But when a listen back to the file the drums where far away and the guitars clipped,so a plays the file through quicktime everythin is fine can sumone help y itumes is doin this? the file is still .wav


cheers

you have sound enhancer on
i also stopped using i-tunes due to this but then realised it was the sound enhancer that was causing all the problems

 

[James Murphy]

please tell me why it won't let me sort my Podcasts by length e.g. if I wanna find something short quickly if I don't have a lot of time to waste.

well it doesn't let you sort by length (time) in the main podcast window because the main podcast window is a "download bay"... and it wants to keep the newest on top for you (or on bottom, it gives you that discretion) so that it is always clear to you, looking in that window, that you have received the newest installments already, or need to download them.

the way to sort by time is to simply grab the main heading for the podcasts you want to sort from and drag them to an open space in the playlist column and let go.. this creates a playlist, which doesn't contain copies of your podcasts, just "pointers" to them. From the playlist view you can then sort by time, or any other heading, as you please: as you can see here.

simple and efficient. hope that helps.

 

[Ravenous Enemy]

iTunes is, simpy put, the best media management and playback software available for free anywhere on any platform... tried them all.. and iTunes destorys them, hands down.. however, you do have to actually learn something about the software... if you have simply tried it without bothering to learn what any of the "preferenced" (sic) options or on-screen buttons beyond play/stop/skip/pause acutally do, then you are wee-todd-did, and should not be allowed near computers of any sort, ever. And you'll have to grasp the difference between an album and a playlist, and grasp the usefulness and power of playlists, and also when you need one and when you don't.

"(sic)" [sic] has square brackets ([]).

itunes doesn't have a stop button.

 

[James Murphy]

"(sic)" [sic] has square brackets ([]).

you are correct sir. my error. i shall flagellate myself while fasting for one week... standing on my head upon the back of a camel.... deep in the Saudi desert... naked.

itunes doesn't have a stop button.

semantics.... the Play/Pause button is the Start/Stop button... it doesn't have any text there so what's the difference?

lol, neither your post nor my reply were very helpful to anyone.... so howzabout this.... don't make silly, pointless posts to correct grammar/punctuation and debate semantics and i won't make silly replies that poke fun at you for doing so. we both just look like girls in the end anyway.

 

[Sinister Mephisto]

No one's even trying to answer the guys question anymore.

I had the same problem when I first started out. And to be honest, I don't really know what fixed it. But for one thing, I wasn't limiting my stuff back then, and I had too much bass on the guitars and bass drum. So try changing that. A lot of it is perception, after you listen to something for a while it can sound great, then you take a break, put your song in itunes, and it sounds like ass. It's also not clear if you're listening on the same speakers when you listen to your itunes-ed file. That makes a huge difference.

All in all, I have a really unsatifisfying quasi-answer for you. From someone who had the exact same problem, just practice mixing. Also, use a limiter, and give you're self like .2 db of extra space on top just incase, at least while you're trying to work out this problem.

Never had a problem with itunes personally, I've used it on macs and pcs pretty extensively.

 

[2012]

iTunes is ridiculously simple. Everything designed by Apple extremely simple to use, so I don't know how people can say they don't understand it.

I would think Windows users would have a grasp of how important it is to go through the preferences, given all the unnecessary preferences and options in all Windows software.

In any case, I think the original poster needs to turn off all the sound enhancements as previously stated, but the clipping he mentioned sounds to me like he may need to turn down the volume slider on the iTunes player.

For whatever reason, on my system (intel mac) iTunes will clip on playback through my 002R if the volume in iTunes is 100%. Simply turning down the volume within iTunes solved that. No worries.

I don't use iTunes for "reference" listening. I use Quicktime. I think it sounds better even though iTunes uses Quicktime for playback, but nothing beats iTunes for organization of a music library. Once I started using playlists I really started appreciating it a lot more.