Native Instruments Komplete vs Omnisphere

Ericlingus

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Which would you guys get? Komplete seems like the better deal to me but I hear great things about omnisphere as well. I'm looking for industrial, trance, hip hop, and dubstep sounds. I'm leaning towards komplete but what do you guys think?
 
I don't do industrial, trance, hip hop, or dubstep, and I have little knowledge as to the commonly preferred methods for creating the complete palettes of sound in those genres, but I regularly use Omnisphere, and the sounds it contains are incredibly rich, musical, and mixable.
 
For your needs (industrial, trance, hip hop, and dubstep sounds) I say Komplete hands down. It comes with more than you would ever need. No competition. There's nothing to think about, buy it and never look back.
 
Komplete would be better for you, learn how to use Massive and FM8.

I think Omnisphere is more awesome overall though, but all alone you can find yourself wishing for more lead sounds if you use it and nothing else
 
^ Not to mention for those styles of music it's good to have a sampler (KONTAKT) and drum machine/drum sampler. (BATTERY) Omnisphere does sound pretty but it's going to leave you wanting. Hell, sometimes you want things less pretty and more gritty, say for like Hip Hop.
 
Omnishere is awesome, but for what you described Komplete all day long. I don't think you can get more bang for your buck, prob best package in terms of content/price I have ever bought.
 
Talking about "strings" ^ Unless one of you found THE perfect string patch, I was disappointed for this very specific matter in Omnisphere. There are a tremendous amount of possibilities but I didn't find so many cool string sounds :lol: Some of them are very nice but their attack is so slow it's not usable except as a soft and warm pad type of string sound. In fact the attack is so slow it's late when you get a chord change in your song and it gets distracting, if you're trying to use them in the background of your guitars to make a wall of soubd. I didn't try to edit too much the patches though. I know most of them are based on the same samples (for string sounds) (you just need to read the description of those patches when you load them) so I found most of them shared this characteristics. I would have expected more possibilities for strings. Mileage may vary, I found out it's all about experimenting the patches, sometimes trying them in odd octaves.

I trully love Omnisphere but I think it needs something else to give you all the possibilities you want. It's my goto plugin for ambience patches and pads, and for leads and character synth I prefer using NI stuff.

I think it's a no-brainer if someone writes electronic or ambience music and has the money to buy it, in any case, because there is no way you don't find something you like in Omnisphere, whatever the type of music. For industrial, raw, synth sounds, the NI line goes first though. it's more traditional but you get exactly what you need right away.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. what genres do you guys think omnisphere is good for? Where does that plugin really shine?
 
It shines a destroys the competition in everything ambiance related, it has so many pads, very complicated soundscape patches, with a lot of character and which sound 3D right away. It has a lot of very original sounds too, and their team has been quite creative at creating sounds out of anything (I think one of the source sounds they use is a piano they put on fire or something). It has everything you need including bass and lead sounds as well, in fact I played with it to create electro tracks with it exclusively. The only thing is that it' is more complicated to do your own sounds than more traditional synths because of its complicated GUI (I don't think it is as friendly as an FM8 or Massive). In theory you can do almost everything you want with it, but in practice to create a sound from scratch out of oscillators I would go with a simpler synth, and you're better off starting from a genuine patch that you would modify thereafter. Also it's more based on granular sounds or samples of actual recordings modified to the extreme (like creating a whole synth soundscape out of a single string instrument sample), which have different flavours, than sounds generated by oscillators (which are richer in harmonics).

Basically you have thousands and thousands of sounds so if I had to keep one single plugin for all my synths, I would go with omnisphere.

Its drawback is that most of its good sounds are a bit "too 3D" to be used in the background, so if that's what you are planning to do, it's good to downsize the sounds by removing their reverb or internal omnisphere plugins IMO (most of them have a shitload of compression / delay / reverb included). Of course in the thousands of sounds, you have hundreds and thousands of simple sounds too, so it's worth a try in any case. What I did myself is go through all of them, playing a few notes, and giving a rating inside the omnisphere explorer to all those I found inspiring, so that later I could filter the list and only see those I found potential in.
 
yeah seems cool but I think I have made up my mind and will choose to get komplete over it. I think I will get much more versitility out of it. Nice that it comes with battery and guitar rig as well which are two plugins I'd like to have. Seems like an awesome deal.
 
I'd investigate camel audio alchemy as well. Same kind of easy to use layout as massive but a lot more versatile. You can load in your own audio modulate the crap out of it. Infinite LFO's and AHDSR curves, as well as some really nice effects and filters. I'd highly recommend it if you like making your own patches, as that's where the fun lies IMO.
 
yeah, i'd say Alchemy as well. it can do all those genres, although NI Massive is still my go-to for dubstep.

i own a lot of Native Instruments stuff but never bought Komplete. i feel i'd just end up being stuck with it. there's just so much stuff that it really gets counterproductive having to flip through it all to find something, but you'd just have to use it because you spent all that money on it.

by the way, if you can, if you're going for Komplete i'd hold off buying it for now anyway. Native Instruments have those bi-annual sales that allow you to buy it for like half price. i never buy almost anything from them at full price, just as i never buy anything from Waves or IK Multimedia at full price. there's always the sales.
 
yeah, i'd say Alchemy as well. it can do all those genres, although NI Massive is still my go-to for dubstep.

i own a lot of Native Instruments stuff but never bought Komplete. i feel i'd just end up being stuck with it. there's just so much stuff that it really gets counterproductive having to flip through it all to find something, but you'd just have to use it because you spent all that money on it.

by the way, if you can, if you're going for Komplete i'd hold off buying it for now anyway. Native Instruments have those bi-annual sales that allow you to buy it for like half price. i never buy almost anything from them at full price, just as i never buy anything from Waves or IK Multimedia at full price. there's always the sales.

I've never seen komplete half off. It went down to 400 for cyber monday. Audio Deluxe sold it to me over the summer for 440.
 
yeah it's hard to believe that komplete would ever get half off. I've only seen it as low as 400 as well. Always nice to be on the lookout for sales though. I bought cakewalk's Rapture synth for 20 bucks during the black friday sales.
 
I've never seen komplete half off. It went down to 400 for cyber monday. Audio Deluxe sold it to me over the summer for 440.

you're right, i couldn't find a message that actually states so. still, there are nice savings on them every now and then, and if memory serves, one fairly recently.