Need Mix suggestions for Metal with female Vocals!

[pitoga]

Greetings!
Its getting really hard these days to keep my mixing ear trained as for i'm working as a composer for TV commercials and there is really no time for anything mixing or metal related.

I'm having trouble getting this mix anywhere.
The genre is kinda technical Metal but the point is that there are female Vocals and they don't really fit the mix, I can imagine growls to fit easier . Well please I would be really grateful If you could give me any suggestions or Point perhaps to any reference that could help me choose a path for this song.

Here i have two demos, one with a hughes and kettner tubemeister 18 and the other one with the TSE x50II DEMO (that's why its shorter)
Is the amp one perhaps to bright? You cant believe how much training you loose when you are only composing Jingles for TV.
Thanks in advance!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36168310/Nathalie Markoch/Outrage Mix 1 hughes and kettner .mp3

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36168310/Nathalie Markoch/Outrage Mix 1 TSE X50.mp3

 

[Mattayus]

I think the real amp sounds ok, a bit nasal but it works for the mix.
I think you could do with bringing her vocals down a hair, or pulling back the treble. They also feel like they're sitting ontop of the mix a bit, so try various blends of delay and reverb to make them feel set back a little more. They're currently very narrow.

It is difficult with dense metal + female vocals though. I had a huge fight on my hands with this band



I still think her vox are too loud but female vox just poke out really bad, I find. Gotta find the right balance.

 

[pitoga]

Thanks, great advice. Yeah its really hard to make them poke out without putting them pretty loud. And besides her vocals aren't as strong as the one you posted. Any ways I thing I´ll rethink the whole mix again centering around the vox. After comparing it to yours (great mix by the way) I feel mine kinda tiring after a wile. Guess I was so centered in making the drums really punchy and tha bass really aggressive that its playing against me. Besides that my guitars are competing for the vocal spectrum. Thanks for your input!
Any more suggestions are well received!

 

[pitoga]

So I've had another go at the mix from scratch.
A totally different approach.

It's actually my first time mixing for somebody else to master. As usually I know some things I'll "fix" with the master. And this time I really don't know what is a good finished mix, so that i can send it to master to someone else.

Here is the mix

Please any critics suggestions are welcomed.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36168310/Nathalie Markoch/Outrage Mix 3.mp3