New track and video from Extol!

Nidstang

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I was pretty sure I made an Extol thread already but I cant seem to find it at all.
But anyway here is the track from the progressive death metal masters, in my opinion, Extol.
Enjoy guys!



Also here is another track they released.

 
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I have only heard 2 songs off this album and already I can tell this is going to be one of my top albums for this year.
 
Good music. The lyrics ruin it for me.

I'm just as much of an outspoken anti-theist as you are and this is likely tied with Tesseract for my AOTY. My favorite metal record year last year was also from a band with Christian lyrics. Big deal, it's just lyrics.
 
I'm just as much of an outspoken anti-theist as you are and this is likely tied with Tesseract for my AOTY. My favorite metal record year last year was also from a band with Christian lyrics. Big deal, it's just lyrics.

just wondering, what album was it?
 
I personally think the lyrics are well written and fit well with the music, but whatever the message is, it doesn't matter if there is amazing music to back it up with.

After listening to the album about 6 times I'd have to say these tracks are my favourite.
The melodies they pull off in this song are just fantastic.

The self titled track is just ridiculously beautiful.
 
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Serious question, but just out of curiosity... Does that mean you necessarily need to agree/enjoy the lyrics in order to enjoy a band? Do you feel like you have to agree with their message, so to speak?
It depends on the message and its intent. Obviously, I listen to a good deal of Black Metal. However, to me, that message is completely fantasy based and has no impact on our culture.

I'm just as much of an outspoken anti-theist as you are and this is likely tied with Tesseract for my AOTY. My favorite metal record year last year was also from a band with Christian lyrics. Big deal, it's just lyrics.
It seems lyrics have always been more important to me, than they are to the average listener. One of the reasons I love Nevermore, Redemption, Zero Hour, etc. is because I love their lyrics. Conversely, there are bands who I dislike because of their lyrics, either the quality and/or the message.
 
It depends on the message and its intent. Obviously, I listen to a good deal of Black Metal. However, to me, that message is completely fantasy based and has no impact on our culture.

It seems lyrics have always been more important to me, than they are to the average listener. One of the reasons I love Nevermore, Redemption, Zero Hour, etc. is because I love their lyrics. Conversely, there are bands who I dislike because of their lyrics, either the quality and/or the message.

I'm the opposite with Nevermore. If it weren't for Loomis' crushing riffage, I wouldn't give them the time of day, due to Dane. His lyrics are just downright, wrist cutting content...gets on my nerves. With that said, his lyrics are believable, which is the problem for me and most likely why you dig them. Those black metal guys are ridiculous, so I don't take them seriously at all.

~Brian~
 
Their lyrics are intelligent and well written enough that the message comes across not as preachy but as someone's thoughts and insight.


Betrayal

Living amidst filth and dust
Crawling in mud searching for scraps
Excruciating stench of decaying remains
Constant starvation, a state of nothingness

Failing the overlooked, the ignored
Betraying the least of my brothers

You see them shivering, in solitude
Excluded, Imprisoned, defenseless
You see them tortured, abandoned
Laying on the ground left for dead

Failing the overlooked, the ignored
Betraying the least of my brothers
Failing Me

A refugee in a strange land
Mistrusted and hated
Human beings denied fundamental rights
Exposed to fear and intimidation

Desperate cries of dismay - isolated
Like worthless creatures - nonexistent

Betrayal of the outcasts
You are the accursed goats herded to doom
Turning away from the sight of the needy
 
I'm the opposite with Nevermore. If it weren't for Loomis' crushing riffage, I wouldn't give them the time of day, due to Dane. His lyrics are just downright, wrist cutting content...gets on my nerves. With that said, his lyrics are believable, which is the problem for me and most likely why you dig them. Those black metal guys are ridiculous, so I don't take them seriously at all.
Agreed on all points. Dane's lyrics are dark, and his delivery darker. So I can completely understand why he wouldn't be everyone's thing. As for Black Metal, I completely agree.
 
Their lyrics are intelligent and well written enough that the message comes across not as preachy but as someone's thoughts and insight.
While I would agree that those particular lyrics don't come across as "preachy", I would disagree that they're intelligent or well written. It reads as very steam of conscious, with word choices and phrasing that are mostly uninteresting. That said, many of their songs speak more directly to their faith. Here's a track called "A Gift Beyond Human Reach" where he sings about creationism:

Incomprehensible, captivating
Flawless and beautiful

By the desire of the Creator
The essence of life poured out in every being
Not by mere chance, but with a purpose
Shaped in the likeness of the Triune
Come into existence to love, to worship, to connect

Seeds come alive, a mystery hidden from man
In perfect balance, a perfect composition
Trusting eyes, sparks of life
Completely dependent, yet without fear
Surrendering to the father's arms

Vitality provided from the source
A gift beyond human reach
Not bound by time and space
Destined to the eternal - not bound by time

Incomprehensible, captivating
Flawless and beautiful


Again, I don't begrudge them their right to sing about their faith. And I understand if fellow non-believers don't about about the message and dig what these guys are doing. And for the record, this isn't because I'm some militant atheist. In a similar vein, I had no interest in Jon Schaffer's Sons of Liberty project. Again, lyrics are important to me. If those lyrics carry a genuine message, than I judge the band based on their message. I'm not looking for anyone to agree with my stance, it's simply how I feel.
 
Again, lyrics are important to me. If those lyrics carry a genuine message, than I judge the band based on their message. I'm not looking for anyone to agree with my stance, it's simply how I feel.

Interesting. So if a band has a message that could possibly impact the real world, your enjoyment of their album is dependent on the content of their message. How do you go about determining if the band has a message in the first place? Do you take the time to look up lyrics for anything that is not obviously dripping with fantasy trappings or joking around? Or like most of us, do you pay no particular attention to lyrics unless they are *brought* to your attention in some way?

I am one of the folks who could care less about lyrics. Certainly, lyrics can significantly add to my enjoyment of an album (AJFA, Mindcrime, Sabbat-Dreamweaver, Sanctuary-ITMB, several Skyclad albums, etc.), but 99.9% of the time, the vocals are just another instrument for me. I look to writers in media other than music to impress me with their way with words.
 
Agreed on all points. Dane's lyrics are dark, and his delivery darker. So I can completely understand why he wouldn't be everyone's thing. As for Black Metal, I completely agree.

This is actually one of the chief reasons I love Nevermore. Dane doesn't sugar coat the world and his takedowns of it are pretty serious stuff. His voice is also the perfect match to Loomis' riffing.
 
This is actually one of the chief reasons I love Nevermore. Dane doesn't sugar coat the world and his takedowns of it are pretty serious stuff. His voice is also the perfect match to Loomis' riffing.

I agree with your statement. Yes, his vocal style is "sinister" matching well with the content and the riffing. The problem with Nevermore, for me, is that there doesn't seem to be any hope at all. I don't mind the non-sugar coating, but I believe there's always hope. That's the reason why I can't relate to or appreciate his lyrics.

~Brian~
 
I agree with your statement. Yes, his vocal style is "sinister" matching well with the content and the riffing. The problem with Nevermore, for me, is that there doesn't seem to be any hope at all. I don't mind the non-sugar coating, but I believe there's always hope. That's the reason why I can't relate to or appreciate his lyrics.

~Brian~

To some degree, I can totally see that. Lately, I'm much more into positive lyrics. Not necessarily a slight against negative lyrics, but it's just where my head's been at for the last few months. Been into a pop punk kick that I've yet to break off of because of it!
 
Interesting. So if a band has a message that could possibly impact the real world, your enjoyment of their album is dependent on the content of their message.
Yes.

How do you go about determining if the band has a message in the first place? Do you take the time to look up lyrics for anything that is not obviously dripping with fantasy trappings or joking around? Or like most of us, do you pay no particular attention to lyrics unless they are *brought* to your attention in some way?
A bit of both. I always listen to the lyrics. If the vocals are indiscernible, I'll sometimes look them up. It kind of depends on the band and whether I feel it's worth it.

I am one of the folks who could care less about lyrics. Certainly, lyrics can significantly add to my enjoyment of an album (AJFA, Mindcrime, Sabbat-Dreamweaver, Sanctuary-ITMB, several Skyclad albums, etc.), but 99.9% of the time, the vocals are just another instrument for me. I look to writers in media other than music to impress me with their way with words.
The vocals are only another instrument for me when it comes to genres that are not built around vocal melodies, like Death or Black. With more melodic genres, the vocals, in and of themselves, are make or break. I don't listen to a band (Power, Prog, etc.) if I don't like the singer.