NOISE CREEP CHATS WITH PAUL OF THESE ARE THEY

Sep 13, 2007
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Paul Kuhr knows fans of his band Novembers Doom will likely want to check out his new project, These Are They. And they should. The Chicago-based act's debut album, 'Who Linger,' is a ferocious, down-tuned offering rife with old-school death metal riffage, and it drops Nov. 10 through The End Records. It's the kind of album that makes you glad you love metal, but despite boasting two current and one former member of Novembers Doom, the album is not a carbon copy of the doom metal specialists.

"We've had discussions in the band many times, and we knew, at least for the first album, that the comparison lines would be drawn," Kuhr, who fronts both bands, tells Noisecreep. "We knew that everything that ever came out was going to mention Novembers Doom ... Steve [Nicholson] being Novembers' original guitar player, and [drummer Sasha Horn] playing with us. We figured people would think, 'This is just Novembers Doom with two other guys.' So we had to try and make it different."

In fact, Kuhr says he even reverted, vocally, and returned to the way he used to sing on Novembers Doom's earliest material ... back when he didn't care about being audible and clear with his vocals. And the result is intimidating for anyone who doesn't adore Entombed. The good news is, These Are They are basically finished with their second album, and Kuhr says "when people hear the newest material, it's even further away from Novembers Doom, so it's definitely going to separate the two bands."

Kuhr says he started These Are They back in 2008, when he and the guitarist reconnected online, 15 years after Nicholson had jumped ship. "I realized he lived literally five minutes away from me, so we got together one night to have beers, and we started talking," he says. "Steve said he really missed jamming, and I was like, 'Let's do something.' A very short time later, we got a couple of friends together, and that's how it started. It was really that simple."

Kuhr says when Nicholson walked away from Novembers Doom, he walked away from metal essentially, selling all of his equipment, buying a Harley and joining a motorcycle club. For 15 years, he was completely disconnected from metal. "When he walked away from the band, it was disappointing for me because the guy's got incredible talent, and I didn't want to see him waste what he can do," Kuhr says. "And with him coming back ... it's like he never stopped playing. He just has natural talent."

Kuhr thinks Nicholson's complete lack of metal knowledge contributed to the old school feel of These Are They's sound. "We had discussed what we wanted to do and the key to this was ... Steve hasn't purchased a metal album in 15 years, so he has no new influences," Kuhr explains. "You mention bands ... even like, 'Hey, have you heard the new Opeth?' He doesn't know who that is.

"He's really that removed from the new stuff, and that's the key that still gives us that sound from the '90s. It's funny, he's getting into new bands now, and the other day, he's like, 'Yeah, I heard this new band Amon Amarth ... they're pretty good.' And I just have to laugh."

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PART 2

On Nov. 10, These Are They will unleash 'Who Linger,' the Chicago old school death metallers' unruly, sinister, and punishing debut LP. If you like Entombed and Bolt Thrower, These Are They are for you. But what does frontman Paul Kuhr do when he's not working with These Are They or his other band, Novembers Doom? He's a techie, and damn proud of it.

"I'm really into Apple and Mac products, and have been since the '80s," Kuhr, who is a regular at sites like MacRumors AppleInsider, tells Noisecreep. "I'm a geek about that stuff. I love that stuff."

So, when we found this out, we tempted Kuhr, who admits to jail-breaking his iPhone, by asking him if he knows anything solid about the fabled Apple iTablet. "It's all rumors at this point, but it's basically an iPhone blown up to almost 11 inches ... the rumors are that it'll have a full touch-screen, and it seems like it could be something pretty amazing. No one knows for sure. It's all speculation, but this plant in China is claiming it's manufacturing the screen for the tablet ... I told you I'm a geek about this stuff."

Kuhr will be spending a lot of time online these next few months, because unfortunately, These Are They won't be coming to any hole-in-the-wall venues near you any time soon, as they have absolutely no touring plans. They've got day jobs -- so instead, they're writing.

According to Kuhr, one of three band members with a connection to Novembers Doom (These Are They's Sasha Horn plays drums for Novembers Doom, and guitarist Steve Nicholson was a founding member of the band, leaving the fold about 15 years ago), they're writing at least one new song a week and have enough material at this point for another release.

"We get together one day a week to rehearse and write, and in one year's time ... in one year, we've formed, recorded, put out an EP, wrote our first album, recorded the album, and the album is coming out with our second album more than 60 percent done," Kuhr tells Noisecreep, proudly. "Things are moving very, very quickly. We'll be ready to record the second album by the time this album comes out."

And the new stuff, he says, is "definitely a progression and a step up in how brutal and fierce it sounds. It's good." Kuhr's also been writing material for Novembers Doom's next LP, but doesn't see that surfacing until well into 2010. "I think this trend of guitarists playing a million miles an hour and being as technical as they can, I think we're starting to see that come to an end," Kuhr offers. "And people are falling back and appreciating good songs again, and not just technical playing, which is cool."

http://www.noisecreep.com/2009/10/20/these-are-they-frontman-is-a-tech-enthusiast/