of pineapples, love, and neglect

rahvin

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in this thread you're free to discuss 3 of the most important issues mankind ever had to face:

- are pineapples, love, and neglect forever?
- why do people stop caring about us, loving us, and feeding us pineapples, sending us straight into oblivion?
- how come it is so hard to properly peel a pineapple or unreciprocated love?

please debate at length.
 
A) Love and neglect are forever. Pineapples are for as long as you have pineapples in the fridge.

B) Because humans are fickle creatures. They also run out of pineapple.

C) To peel a pineapple is difficult. To peel unreciprocated love requires more skill than I could imagine.

A further question: is pineapple better when cold, or when hot and seductively lying on a warm pizza?
 
a) i object. the fridge can be replenished with pineapples at any given occasion, while it can hardly be filled with love. neglect is cold enough by itself not to need a fridge.

b) that's true. i hate fickle creatures. they... fickle. unexpectedly. give me a reason to assume some don't.


c) i thought it would just require time, but in fact it seems to need much skill. yet it does seem simpler, and you don't really have to rotate anything spikey in the meanwhile...


Dark_Jester said:
A further question: is pineapple better when cold, or when hot and seductively lying on a warm pizza?
this idea of putting pineapple on pizza, i have had the occasion to debate it in all its morbid, rotten splendour, quite recently in a northern country. apparently, you too lack the perception of how horribly mistaken people who put some sweet fruit on a salty dish can be. i'm expecting neglect from you any moment now after this revelation. please repent your ways before it's too late to turn back. eat your pineapple with whipped cream and your pizza with mushrooms, as it's meant to be by the gods above.
 
A) Because nothing will be forever.

B) Then if the pineapples stops to be, then people (who also have stopped existing) can't send them to us, (whom doesn't exist anymore) with the mail (and; there is of course no mail anymore, not even the mailmen exists forever). Love though, is eternal. Love is one of the three things that will be forever (the other two are communism and the internet). But even if there's love to give, it's hard to give it when neither you nor the recipient exists.

C) I can't answer this, because the question contains a word I do not understand. :loco:

And regarding pineapple on pizza, traditions are meant to be broken, and the statues depicting the gods are meant to be thrown into the cleaning fire. Therefore, pineapple on pizza (in these tracts commonly referred to as 'Hawaii') will be considered something good. And thus spake the enlightened Swede.
 
a) aside from the fact that you contradict this very assumption under (b), it seems to me that neglect might as well be forever, while comfort is temporary. there is no basis of comfort punctuated by random spells of neglect, but a long streak of indifference with a few specks of drunken comfort inbetween, in case you're lucky. that's a cool direction for the debate to go too, though.

b) basically you're saying that some fluffy nerd from china is eternal, therefore you're scaring me. :p i think love is just a potential, nothing that takes place in the act. it's more like the possibility of a change, and in that i think it might be at the same time non-existing and eternal. let's just leave communism alone, shall we?

c) peeling means taking the skin off of something. but maybe you were referring to love, which anyway means exactly the same thing.


Child of Time said:
And regarding pineapple on pizza, traditions are meant to be broken, and the statues depicting the gods are meant to be thrown into the cleaning fire. Therefore, pineapple on pizza (in these tracts commonly referred to as 'Hawaii') will be considered something good. And thus spake the enlightened Swede.
yes, hawaii, delight, hawaii. :yuk:
i seriously hope the statues of the god get some proper cleaning through fire, as they were dirty as sexual jokes last time i checked. but this is not about tradition: it's about having the sense of taste or not. resign yourself to put chicken on your pasta too. ;)
 
"unreciprocated" was the word I was referring to. If I'm going to be serious, the only things that lasts forever is darkness, cold, and chaos. (that sounds black meatl). The negative sides of most things are the only ones that lasts, darkness is abscense of light, cold is abscense of heat, and so on. This gives birth to a new debate; if something is defined as the abscense of its opposite, does it really exist?

Ooops, gotta go now. I'll get back to this.
 
Child of Time said:
"unreciprocated" was the word I was referring to.
by itself it means "without pineapples". alongside with love it just means love.


If I'm going to be serious, the only things that lasts forever is darkness, cold, and chaos. (that sounds black meatl). The negative sides of most things are the only ones that lasts, darkness is abscense of light, cold is abscense of heat, and so on. This gives birth to a new debate; if something is defined as the abscense of its opposite, does it really exist?
i guess it depends on whether its opposite exists in the first place. :)
are we positive there are things we can only define as the absence of their opposite? through this process we could actually bounce back and forth from opposites without actually defining anything, thus maybe giving room for the possibility that nothing really exists.
it would be rather interesting at first. but in the end quite boring.
 
a. they will damn sure survive your humble self, and they´re not ashamed to tell you that.

b. is that some kind of follow-up to why don´t people start caring about us, love us, feed us pineapples and bring us out of oblivion?
however, I´d guess that most often they either think you´re allergic or they just found out that feeding people pineapples means less pineapple for themselves.

c. because you´re too hungry and therefore cannot be patient enough to peel the pineapple the proper way.

Child of Time said:
not even the mailmen exists forever.
yeah, you keep telling yourself that. we´ll see. of course, you won´t, though.
 
Pineapples on pizza are like red wine with soles of the fishy kind: it's an evil too big to be given a name. So fuck Hawaii. Carl, please take note of the fact that I'm not trying to say anything against your all-systems-go (out of commission) theory: they do indeed, but they need not be replaced with disgusting things. Normally when they go is because they're found to be disgusting in the first place. You can see my point.

Let's talk about love now. About the fluffy nerd quip, I want to say that all nerds are ultimately fluffy. They're bound to become oversensitive, living in the relative darkness of their computer rooms, and probably if they hadn't been easily hurt wouldn't have locked themselves in from the start.

As the saying goes, when rejected all nerds ask themselves: how come? I'm dependable, sweet, kind, attentive, low-risk, a good listener, and smart. The answer is: yes, all true and good, but you're a nerd.

This coming from someone who managed to write half a page of very heartfelt tech explanations about the use of a little-known FTP gimmick at work today. I also wanted to conclude the walkthrough with a corny phrase, but that was because of who was asking, not because FTP really stands for Fluffy Transmission Protocol.

Which brings us to neglect. We get it because we're unlucky and finally we prefer it to the obvious alternative. If I really just wanted to be taken care of, and not in the shoot-me sense of the phrase, I'd pick different people as objects of my affections. Until we're ready to accept the people who actually want to take care of us as partners, we're going to be neglected, barring the very lucky case of reciprocation (once in ages); and if we don't change our ways, that's because the pain of neglect after all is more bearable than being cared for by someone we don't want. Good old axiom of revealed preferences. Never fails to deliver.
 
@hyena: about love and being too sensitive. yes, i'm too sensitive, for many reasons and i don't think that being forced into nerdish position is the most important. but don't you think that if i ever stop being so sensitive a lot of people should really start to fear for their lives? it's probably better if i'm the one left mopping the floor of the throne room, instead of forcing everyone else to build me a brand new shining dining hall. i know this idea is rather self-effacing, but i feel self-effacing, and my sufferings are probably just a small stupid speck of dust on the huge blackboard of the world.

about neglect: all understood and agreed on. i was obviously referring to the rejection we get from the ones we never get to. those who don't reject us are usually worthy of our compassion, or empathy. and they will hear from us what we don't hear from others: that nobody ever get what they want.

and thanks for siding with the anti-pinapple-on-pizza league. :)
 
rahvin said:
this idea of putting pineapple on pizza, i have had the occasion to debate it in all its morbid, rotten splendour, quite recently in a northern country. apparently, you too lack the perception of how horribly mistaken people who put some sweet fruit on a salty dish can be.
Ever heard of trail mix (salty peanuts, raisins, M&Ms)? Or what about chocolate-covered pretzels? Apparently you are not well-versed in the splendor that is simultaneously sweet and salty. Pffft, what do Italians know about pizza anyway? :rolleyes:
 
listen, i've heard an american cook saying that pizza was invented by italian-americans in the USA at the end of last century. i was pretty homicidal before, but one can't say that and have a right to freedom.
"trail mix" sounds... american. :yuk:
and no, i'm not racist, i'm just picky. :D
 
regardless of the heretic, blasphemous lies she posted, having lina on my thread makes years and years of lonely research on pineapple worthwhile! :Spin: now if she only was a single woman and possibly 10cm shorter... :rolleyes: ah, the possibilities!