OT: 9/11 We will remember

[Wyvern]

To all my sisters and brothers in USA and across the globe. Let's bow our head for a minute and remember those who fall in a senseless act of terrorism.

For I was there at the time and I will always remember. We can forgive but we can never forget.

 

[J-Dubya 777]

Forgiving is quite difficult for me.
This was our generation's "day of infamy".

 

[Wyvern]

Forgiving is quite difficult for me.
This was our generation's "day of infamy".

I use that quote because is one I been tought when I learned about the Holocaust. We have been told our whole life that we can forgive but never FORGET, because when you forget you let it happen again.
Have you read about the Russian neo-Nazis in Israel? Mankind never learns from history, there we go again

NP: Rick Wakeman - 'The Fire'

 

[knives]

I find it really sad and somewhat disturbing that a day after 9/11, I am posting the 3rd reply to this thread.

We will definitely remember this day. It was a horrible day...

 

[SionsBrother]

We definetely need to remember those who died in the attacks. While I was school yesterday, hardly anybody even metioned the attacks, a pity.

 

[poundingmetal74]

We definetely need to remember those who died in the attacks. While I was school yesterday, hardly anybody even metioned the attacks, a pity.

It never even dawned on me yesterday that it was September 11th. While we shouldn't forget, it's nice to see that many people are moving on with their lives. Sort of like how Pearl harbor just wasn't the same after WW2.

 

[Wyvern]

While I was school yesterday, hardly anybody even metioned the attacks, a pity.

That's my point, so quickly we forget the innocent who died? It that what we are as a species? Have we came to the point where Stalin saying become a truth? A person death is a tragedy, a million deaths is just statistics.

NP: Iced Earth - 'Framing Armageddon'

 

[Trans-Siberian Outcast]

Personally, I'm not into commemorating negative dates (or positive for that matter). Every day is just another day in your life, regardless of it's "significance" in history or pre-designed "meanings" (like holidays).

I don't commemorate the loss of some of my heroes like Randy Rhoads, Criss Oliva, Dale Earnhardt and Adam Petty, or the early departure of my very close friend, Neil, in the mid 90s. I think about them all on a regular basis, and commemorate them with each thought. I don't need a special "date in time" to do so.

It might not be a popular opinion, but September 11th is just another day of the year to me. I'll leave the commemorating to those who were directly affected and choose to fly their flags at half mast.

 

[SoundMaster]

Personally, I'm not into commemorating negative dates (or positive for that matter). Every day is just another day in your life, regardless of it's "significance" in history or pre-designed "meanings" (like holidays).

I don't commemorate the loss of some of my heroes like Randy Rhoads, Criss Oliva, Dale Earnhardt and Adam Petty, or the early departure of my very close friend, Neil, in the mid 90s. I think about them all on a regular basis, and commemorate them with each thought. I don't need a special "date in time" to do so.

It might not be a popular opinion, but September 11th is just another day of the year to me. I'll leave the commemorating to those who were directly affected and choose to fly their flags at half mast.

We share the same POV.
Similarly, birthdays, etc., have little or no meaning for me.

Events like 9/11 are much more significant than something to be "remembered" only once per year.

 

[T_man357]

AWESOME THREAD!!!!


NEVER FORGET 9-11!!!!!

To all my sisters and brothers in USA and across the globe. Let's bow our head for a minute and remember those who fall in a senseless act of terrorism.

For I was there at the time and I will always remember. We can forgive but we can never forget.

 

[T_man357]

I'm going to try and squeeze this into my sig line....Very well put!!

Events like 9/11 are much more significant than something to be "remembered" only once per year.

 

[poundingmetal74]

Personally, I'm not into commemorating negative dates (or positive for that matter). Every day is just another day in your life, regardless of it's "significance" in history or pre-designed "meanings" (like holidays).

I don't commemorate the loss of some of my heroes like Randy Rhoads, Criss Oliva, Dale Earnhardt and Adam Petty, or the early departure of my very close friend, Neil, in the mid 90s. I think about them all on a regular basis, and commemorate them with each thought. I don't need a special "date in time" to do so.

It might not be a popular opinion, but September 11th is just another day of the year to me. I'll leave the commemorating to those who were directly affected and choose to fly their flags at half mast.

Very well said bro!

 

[J-Dubya 777]

I use that quote because is one I been tought when I learned about the Holocaust. We have been told our whole life that we can forgive but never FORGET, because when you forget you let it happen again.
Have you read about the Russian neo-Nazis in Israel? Mankind never learns from history, there we go again

NP: Rick Wakeman - 'The Fire'

I hear ya brother! Also, the neo-Nazi thing in Israel is beyond fugged up! Israel's had a tough existance so far, and with all the other stuff going down in the middle east, it's not going to get better for everyone in that region anytime soon.

 

[Bryant]

Unfortunately.... we all live in a world that bears sins against humanity like hatred, bigotry, greed, poverty, religious zealosy etc. That isn't going to change anytime soon as far as I can see it. All we can do is to be sure and be kind to others and let things fall as they will. It all starts with each of us.
The members of this forum come from different backgrounds, many are from different countries, are different ages, etc. etc. yet no one here has flown a plane into my house. The world should come visit UMOS and planet earth would be a great place to live... right ?
I will never forget 9-11......... God bless America !!

 

[Alteredmindeath]

Terrorists??? or the Governments excuse to start the war for oil in Iraq.

 

[Bryant]

Terrorists??? or the Governments excuse to start the war for oil in Iraq.

Actually for neither. The US wants a democracy in the middle east that is supportive of the western world (not just tolerant like the Saudi govornment) so that they can keep an eye on things like nuclear technology that is going on in the middle east. A 747 has shown that it can do quite a bit of damage, but look at the death and damage the atomic bomb did on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There are nuclear weapons that are hundreds of times more powerful than those now.
I do not like war, never have, never will. I don't like American soldiers, nor Iraqi citiczens losing their lives, but there is a bigger picture than just some scattered about terrorist group OR crude oil supplies. I realize the US government looks like a bunch of bullies to many (including a great deal of US citizens) but President Bush stated from the very beginning that the war in Iraq was for "stability" in the middle east. Those countries have been fighting themselves, each other and Isreal for decades. The combination of that with the nuclear technology that has now been reaching the mid-east, and that is the baseline for this war..... to stop a nuclear attack on Israel or another Mid-East country. Bush has never said that in so many words so that there is no panic, but that is reality.
In those oil producing nations, you have very little middle class outside of the metropolis cities. You have the rich and the poor. You also have deeply religious people that are not well educated and can be swayed by misinterpretations of their religion. That is a bad mixture.

Bryant

 

[poundingmetal74]

Actually for neither. The US wants a democracy in the middle east that is supportive of the western world (not just tolerant like the Saudi govornment) so that they can keep an eye on things like nuclear technology that is going on in the middle east. A 747 has shown that it can do quite a bit of damage, but look at the death and damage the atomic bomb did on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There are nuclear weapons that are hundreds of times more powerful than those now.
I do not like war, never have, never will. I don't like American soldiers, nor Iraqi citiczens losing their lives, but there is a bigger picture than just some scattered about terrorist group OR crude oil supplies. I realize the US government looks like a bunch of bullies to many (including a great deal of US citizens) but President Bush stated from the very beginning that the war in Iraq was for "stability" in the middle east. Those countries have been fighting themselves, each other and Isreal for decades. The combination of that with the nuclear technology that has now been reaching the mid-east, and that is the baseline for this war..... to stop a nuclear attack on Israel or another Mid-East country. Bush has never said that in so many words so that there is no panic, but that is reality.
In those oil producing nations, you have very little middle class outside of the metropolis cities. You have the rich and the poor. You also have deeply religious people that are not well educated and can be swayed by misinterpretations of their religion. That is a bad mixture.

Bryant

I smell a political debate coming on... :Smug:

Our new songs "Through the Mirror" and "Infidel" deal a lot with what Bryant's talking about.

 

[SoundMaster]

...from the very beginning that the war in Iraq was for "stability" in the middle east...

Sadly, of course, the war has lead to the exact opposite (which was inevitable).

 

[Wyvern]

I smell a political debate coming on... :Smug:

Me too and I DON'T WANT IT

I started this thread to remember a tragedy, to remember innocent people, to rememeber something that should never happened and that should never happen again if we REMEMBER. All I wanted was to express my feelings as human for other unfortunate humans, not to start a political debate one of the roots of all evil, and I was expecting the same from my fellow UMOSers.

Above all I wanted to express my sympathy to a nation that embraced me for free in special moment of my life giving me education, shelter, food, clothing, friendship asking nothing but a bit of decent work in return. How many countries does that for a foreigner without exploiting him/her?

USA my respects and love to your people forever.

NP: Fueled By Fire - 'Betrayal'

P.S. I will not refer anymore to this thread for me it's closed.

 

[razoredge]

I cant forget Sept 11th, cause its my wifes birthday.

What bothers me about the incident is who couldnt have seen it coming. The ignorance around the globe is totally unforgivable. What will be this legacy we leave the children