Over-Production

[[UEAK]Clowd]

. even the best speakers won't recreate the feel and atmosphere of a show. cant take the blood sweat and tears of a show and put it on a disk, so you need to create excitement in a different way.

That's EXACTLY how I try to explain it to everyone that bitches about it... you gotta make up for the lack of the visuals, a crowd that's into it, a $1,000,000 sound system with 50 subs cranking at 120db, etc etc etc... so you do mad layers to make it exciting and interesting instead.

Somehow some people still don't get it though.

 

[GarethSE]

That's EXACTLY how I try to explain it to everyone that bitches about it... you gotta make up for the lack of the visuals, a crowd that's into it, a $1,000,000 sound system with 50 subs cranking at 120db, etc etc etc... so you do mad layers to make it exciting and interesting instead.

Somehow some people still don't get it though.

It's because metal fans that aren't Audio Engineers tend to have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

 

[Sacha]

Totally agree, live and studio are two different animals. You create the vision you want in the studio and THEN you worry about re-creating it as much as possible live. Of course you should be able to play your own tunes very well and have it sound kick ass but it doesn't have to mimic the CD in every aspect IMO.

 

[beyond dead]

, especially about noticing new stuff after a nice burn - aided senses for the win! :Smokin:

TGCD + weed = complete euphoria

 

[Metaltastic]

It's because metal fans that aren't Audio Engineers tend to have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

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[Metaltastic]

TGCD + weed = complete euphoria

Oh damn, I haven't listened to that one high yet - I know what tonight's plan is once I get off work!

 

[The-Zeronaut]

It's because metal fans that aren't Audio Engineers tend to have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

AMEN.

 

[AEL89]

I found the new BMTH album to be over-produced. The new Mastodon album was amazing and really outshone other metal bands that relied on massive, triggered drums and all the other stuff people associate with over-production. Its all personal taste.

 

[beyond dead]

It's because metal fans that aren't Audio Engineers tend to have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

thats sig worthy!

 

[beyond dead]

Oh damn, I haven't listened to that one high yet - I know what tonight's plan is once I get off work!

yeah man let the whole album play. I rarely listen to only 1 song on that album

 

[Fox Mulder]

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What's with the minuses? Does it equal to 0?

 

[Metaltastic]

Hahahaa, wow, there really were a lot in there - I was just randomly spasticly hammering keys

 

[DerMetzgermeister]

Anything that sounds less gritty and raw than Darthrone's "Transilvanian Hunger" or Ulver's "Nattes Madrigal" is overproduced.




:Smug:

 

[dcb]

am i the only one who hears (subconsiously?) some elements/instruments/effects that are on albums - in a live context - although, they are actually not being played by the band ?

i feel that my brain keeps adding all the elements that are missing (maybe due to the extreme levels...), leading me to enjoy songs live, whether they miss some elements or not...

strange.

to me overproduction starts, when a feeling is generated on a record,
which in a live context cannot be recreated.

 

[DanLights]

am i the only one who hears (subconsiously?) some elements/instruments/effects that are on albums - in a live context - although, they are actually not being played by the band ?

i feel that my brain keeps adding all the elements that are missing (maybe due to the extreme levels...), leading me to enjoy songs live, whether they miss some elements or not...

strange.

to me overproduction starts, when a feeling is generated on a record,
which in a live context cannot be recreated.

happens to me sometimes but with the bass specially, when the sound engineer running the FOH sucks ass and bass can't be heard, I just look at the bass player and almost hear the bass, you can say I imagine what it would sound like based on his fingers moving. Of course I don't actually hear it and get all stressed out by how I can't hear it no matter how hard I try lol


I'm with Gareth on this, whoever says Nile is overproduced I will smack his face with a fucking lute. I always say live is one thing and a recording is the other. sometimes I get people saying "but there's a third guitar there, how can we do that live then??" or "Cool synth in the background, but I don't think we should keep it, we don't have a keyboardist" I say "fuck live we're recording here, not playing live, you find out how the fuck to do it live later, if you do"

Oh and Egan, I don't think Daylight Dies albums are overproduced at all, I think they are "brilliantly produced" actually, as in everything can be heard clear, clean and loud even with various layers of guitars/keyboards going on sometimes. But I guess that's what you mean when you say you take it as a compliment