Pitch shifting guitars big time. Yes or no?

[David Lee Hasselhoff]

Big general question: is it "allowed" to pitch shift the guitars in a song by one full tone?
I got this little soft song with DI tracks send through an ampsim (Nebula's Bassman program which puts anything else I've ever heard from an ampsim to shame BTW). Turns out I (<- hack) can't sing to it cause it's too bloody low. My "monitors" ain't exactly top notch, so I don't really hear that much of a difference in quality. I've used Reaper's pitchshifter on it. Is that blasphemous? Any advice? ...too annoyed to track it again...

 

[Eduardo Apolonia]

You can get better results if you pitch shift it before distortion, ie the DI signal

 

[darthjujuu]

+1, i used the reaper pitch shifter to bring a DI guitar down a few notches before it hit revalver and the results were...well, amusing, haha. But what i wanted, i suppose. if it works, why not o_0

i had a cheesy deathcore band come in once and the guitarists played 7-strings in drop A and the bassplayer rolls up with a 4-string p-bass, and the low A sounded like...well, nothing. so i tried having him tune to drop B and then pitch shifting it down to drop A (so there was atleast SOME harmonic tonality to it) and it almost worked but tracking with the latency was too difficult.

 

[Uncle Junior]

Loss of quality big time.

 

[egan.]

Sounds good is good.

 

[arcana83]

Loss of quality big time.

can someone confirm this?

 

[colonel kurtz]

shit sounds awesome when it's an octave or more

 

[CatharsisStudios]

this is shifted http://catharsis.supremepixels.com/Realdrums.mp3

 

[egan.]

can someone confirm this?

It really depends on how much your doing and what you are using to do it. Again, sounds good = is good.

 

[Erik Monsonis]

If you use a half-assed pitch shifter, it will probably end up being low quality. But if you use something decent, it has to sound good. I've heard some good pitch shifted tones in this board.

 

[P-E]

this is shifted http://catharsis.supremepixels.com/Realdrums.mp3

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[AdamWathan]

I've pitchshifted as much as a 4th before, never a whole track though... While editing my last project I needed to fly in an open E sustained chord from another part of a song to double something and the best I could find was an A, so I pitch shifted it down 5 frets and pasted it in, sounded good enough for that part. I generally would stay away from pitchshifting an entire track though :/

 

[CatharsisStudios]

oh my badz http://catharsis.supremepixels.com/Realdrumsbounce.mp3 that should do iiit

 

[David Lee Hasselhoff]

If you use a half-assed pitch shifter, it will probably end up being low quality. But if you use something decent, it has to sound good. I've heard some good pitch shifted tones in this board.

What would be your pitchshifter of choice then? On second listen I'm not all that happy with the in-built Reaper one.

 

[DerMetzgermeister]

What would be your pitchshifter of choice then? On second listen I'm not all that happy with the in-built Reaper one.

What are your parameters? In Reaper you can choose between a bunch of algorithms. Messing around with modes and formants can be a night-day difference.

 

[HeadCrusher]

pitch-shifted and sped up: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1461588/Andy-Sneap-Forum/Endlich amol wieda a gscheits Metl Riff.mp3

 

[Nuno Filipe]

pitch-shifted and sped up: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1461588/Andy-Sneap-Forum/Endlich amol wieda a gscheits Metl Riff.mp3

Sounds weird.

 

[HeadCrusher]

Really? In what way?
I thought it was ok but anyway David Lee Hasselhoff now has at least to samples to make up his mind wether or not pitch-shifting is gonna effect his sound.

 

[Nuno Filipe]

Really? In what way?
I thought it was ok but anyway David Lee Hasselhoff now has at least to samples to make up his mind wether or not pitch-shifting is gonna effect his sound.

What can I say, dont sound too natural. Do you raise the pitch?
Today a tried reapitch with 1 tone lower and it´s not bad at all. But to get a good sound I had to change the algorithm.

 

[chonchball]

edit: nevermind