Portable mp3 player: Do you own one?

Portable mp3 player: Do you own one?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 78 78.0%
  • No, but I plan to.

    Votes: 11 11.0%
  • No, I don't want one.

    Votes: 11 11.0%

  • Total voters
    100
I have an iPod Photo 30Gig. I wish: a) it had an even bigger HD, b) it could support gapless playback like the newest ones (a great development that makes me wonder, what the hell took so long?).

Look, those who are fighting this, you're fighting a losing battle along the lines of the ones fought by betamax devotees, only perhaps more ludicrous. CD's are already sonically flawed. SACD and DVD-A perhaps resolve some of the issues, but if you're clinging to CD's... geez, talk about being attached to a crap medium. For me the convenience of MP3's far outweighs the slight difference in sound quality. And if you're a vinyl purist... well, I'll just repeat what recording engineering legend Tom Dowd said: "People who prefer the sound of music on vinyl like the sound of vinyl more than they like the music." And for portability, you can't beat a portable MP3 player. What are you folks without them doing? Using a portable CD player? Yikes, man, you have no argument.

@Kenneth: is it still about owning something physical? I have to say I don't really understand that. I like the magic of being able to own stuff without it taking up a bunch of space!

Do I wish that I didn't have to compromise? Yes, of course. I have been, at various points in my life, an audio engineer, and I appreciate high quality sound. Right now, quantity and convenience are winning out over negligible differences in sonic quality (especially given that most of my listening is done with headphones on.) Every now and then, I pop a CD into my home system and listen through my Paradigm speakers, and it's great. But that happens pretty infrequently.

Let's face it: most people listen to music in the background. We have crammed our lives too full of crap to have time to sit back and listen to music critically or appreciatively. Most peole don't really know how to listen to music. Most people hear it, but don't really engage in active listening. And many people need more than audio stimulus to satisfy themselves. So even when the initial intent may have been to simply listen to an album, they start absently doing something else, like flipping through a magazine. Many of us spend hours upon hours a week in the car (my wife commutes roughly 15 hours a week, for example). MP3's are a godsend in that situation.

College was one of the few times in my life that I had the time to sit and listen to an album and just lose myself in it. If I want that experience now, it's with headphones on while my wife sleeps next to me. I think it's probably that way for a lot of folks. Thus, any way we can squeeze music into our lives, we will. And since it's seldom the foremost activity, people will always choose cheaper and more convenient for the small cost of (probably inaudible to them) sonic sacrifice.

Just my rambling thoughts.
 
Yeah, I have a very cheap one. 256MB thingy, but usually I'm not away very long, so 2-3 albums are enough. I'd like a better one, but I'm not willing to spend the money on it right now. MP3-players are great.
 
No, I don't want one!!

Look, those who are fighting this, you're fighting a losing battle along the lines of the ones fought by betamax devotees, only perhaps more ludicrous. CD's are already sonically flawed. SACD and DVD-A perhaps resolve some of the issues, but if you're clinging to CD's... geez, talk about being attached to a crap medium. For me the convenience of MP3's far outweighs the slight difference in sound quality. And if you're a vinyl purist... well, I'll just repeat what recording engineering legend Tom Dowd said: "People who prefer the sound of music on vinyl like the sound of vinyl more than they like the music." And for portability, you can't beat a portable MP3 player. What are you folks without them doing? Using a portable CD player? Yikes, man, you have no argument.

Do I wish that I didn't have to compromise? Yes, of course. I have been, at various points in my life, an audio engineer, and I appreciate high quality sound. Right now, quantity and convenience are winning out over negligible differences in sonic quality (especially given that most of my listening is done with headphones on.) Every now and then, I pop a CD into my home system and listen through my Paradigm speakers, and it's great. But that happens pretty infrequently.

Just my rambling thoughts.

"Ramble on Dave" :)

Firstly, Betamax was far superior to VHS, VHS won due to pre-recorded distribution agreements from the film industry.

Betamax is still used by the professionals, Opeth's Roundhouse gig was filmed using Betamax SP PRO Camera's. :)

Also I cannot agree with Tom Dowd although I have great respect for the man.

Vinyl reproduction isn't about the sound of vinyl... it is about "Dynamic Range" all the rest is a compressed manipulated watered down compromise.

I really don't know how they get away with selling such trash, MP3 etc, my guess is it started with DAT, and then carried on downhill. :yuk:

If you want a really good music on the move format, grab yourselves a Sony Walkman Pro "WM D6C" and some good chrome audio tape, TDK SA.

Please correct me if I am in error. :blush:
 
strangely enough, i bought an iPod 30 gb on Monday. The only reason i have done this is that off to SE Asia for a month and im fed up of taking my old personal cd player and lots of cd's, all of which get ruined from taking the cd case plus contents down to the beach and getting sand in the sleeves. The sand makes awful scratches and grouting marks and completely fucks the cd's up.

Terrible sentence construction, yes. But i am tired as i had awful wind all last night which kept me awake. Red onions really dont agree with me.

Anyhoo, im really impressed with the thing (the headphones i cast away and bought some better ones, as they always fall out of my ears), superb piece of technology, even though the sound quality is obviously not as good.
 
good points soundave, whoa @ commuting 15hours/day

i have a 512mb samsung, it's ok although i'd like new headphones. it's small capacity means i update the music on it frequently, which i actually kinda like.
 
Aren't mp3's meant to be crap compared with CD's? So.... since CD players are way cheaper and higher quality, why would you want an mp3 player, besides the convenience factor?
 
good points soundave, whoa @ commuting 15hours/day

Actually, I said 15 hours/week....a day would leave little time for actual work and sleep!

@dcat: totally respect your opinion. Have since I started reading your posts. You have me way beat in terms of experience. I would just like to point out that Tom Dowd elaborated on the physics of LP playback, and it has always stuck with me. I'm going to do my best to paraphrase what he said. An LP is like a carousel. Depending on where you are on the radius of the circle, you travel at faster speeds. The outer horses travel faster than the inner ones, because speed is a matter of distance over time: they travel farther in the same period of time. The same is true of an LP. And, just like recording at higher i.p.s. on analog tape means higher fidelity, so it does on an LP. Thus, over the course of playing a record side, the fidelity diminishes! This is why some of the best tracks on albums were frequently the first on sides A and B. That's just one of the problems he spoke about, but it's the one that has really stuck with me over the years.
 
Aren't mp3's meant to be crap compared with CD's? So.... since CD players are way cheaper and higher quality, why would you want an mp3 player, besides the convenience factor?

Not necessarily "meant to be crap". Sometimes are more crap than others, but it depends on the amount and type of compression.
 
Aren't mp3's meant to be crap compared with CD's? So.... since CD players are way cheaper and higher quality, why would you want an mp3 player, besides the convenience factor?

It all depends of the encoding quality. 320kbps is pretty damn close to cd quality. Even at 192kbps, it's pretty hard to tell the difference on a portable unit.
 
Why would any of you people who do not plan on it be against it?

1. (ipod specific) i despise how it has become a fashion/market statement rather than a utility.
2. (ipod specific) there are better players out there that don't come with apple's ridiculous formatting nonsense.
3. (ipod specific) itunes blows.
4. price.
5. my music collection exceeds the capacity of most players anyway.
6. having everything in one place defeats the joy of limiting oneself to a few albums at most, intricately exploring them rather than skipping around, etc.

anyway, i'd prefer vinyl on a tube 70s record player any day above all other formats. i do own and use a cd player though.