Programming drums in Logic Pro?....

[Shredfiend]

Should I be doing this in the piano roll or Ultrabeat. Way back in the day I use to use Cubase and the drum maps and editor was real fast and easy.
Piano roll seems slow and clumsy compared to cubase.

What's the best way to program rock and metal sequenced drums in Logic?
is ultrabeat more for rap and hiphop? Seemed like all the samples were.

Thanks!!

 

[K Odell]

Piano roll is what I use and I can blaze through it now.

 

[SentencedToBurn]

yea i use piano roll and it works fine

 

[Balee]

I use the hyper editor, it's great because you can name all the different drums and also choose the velocity when you're clicking in the selected hit. Try it, it's under windows

//Bali

 

[TheDriller]

Piano Roll is the way to go.

the editor in Ultrabeat is more for guys who dig the old MPC hardware drum-machines and their in-built step sequencers.

for normal people, the Piano Roll is what you want to be using.

 

[Exocaster]

I use piano roll; I've been using the piano roll since the old Opcode sequencers in the '90s and it's fast and easy. Ultrabeat is really more for electronic stuff, and even using it for that, I still program in the piano roll.

 

[rlcramer]

Guys - what's the most efficient way to handle velocities in the piano roll?

(Obviously, I'm a piano rule newb - I do all of my editing in the hyper editor).

Bobby

 

[Machinated]

you guys are using piano roll over the hyper editor??!??!?!?!

nahhhh

look online for some articles on how to get the hyper editor set up and use that, seriously MUCH faster, easier, less guessing etc

 

[TheDriller]

Guys - what's the most efficient way to handle velocities in the piano roll?

Use the Velocity tool, drag up and down on the notes. Done

 

[J.DavisNJ]

you guys are using piano roll over the hyper editor??!??!?!?!

nahhhh

look online for some articles on how to get the hyper editor set up and use that, seriously MUCH faster, easier, less guessing etc

+1,000,000

I believe Waterboy posted a tutorial for this.

WAY better than the piano roll guys, seriously.

-Joe

 

[JeffTD]

Using piano roll for drums is like trying to fuck a girl with a thanksgiving turkey. It just doesn't make any sense and really doesn't work all too well.

Hyper Editor is where it's at. The only drum map I like better is Cubase's. Piano roll can suck a fatty cock... I hate the concept of "note duration" for a percussive track.

 

[J.DavisNJ]

Using piano roll for drums is like trying to fuck a girl with a thanksgiving turkey. It just doesn't make any sense and really doesn't work all too well.

Hyper Editor is where it's at. The only drum map I like better is Cubase's. Piano roll can suck a fatty cock... I hate the concept of "note duration" for a percussive track.

You speak the troof.

I admit, without the tutorial it was a bit cumbersome for an idiot like me to set up, but once it is - it's fucking fantastic! It's seriously idiot proof. I can program some amazing shit with my eyes closed.

-Joe

 

[J.DavisNJ]

Waterboy's tutorial for Superior 2:

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/production-tips/427923-how-hyper-editor-superior-2-a.html

-Joe

 

[SentencedToBurn]

Using piano roll for drums is like trying to fuck a girl with a thanksgiving turkey. It just doesn't make any sense and really doesn't work all too well.

Hyper Editor is where it's at. The only drum map I like better is Cubase's. Piano roll can suck a fatty cock... I hate the concept of "note duration" for a percussive track.

yea well note duration is pretty void when it comes to percussion tracks. no biggie. but piano roll is used for all instruments, not just percussion tracks.

 

[Shredfiend]

So far trying to program drums with the piano roll has sucked. The kits in Logic aren't so cool either. Maybe for techno but not the metal kits.


I liked programming in Cubase when I did it back in the day-very sweet. Logic piano roll, no. I'll try the hyper editor. Or maybe BFD-I think it has it's own sequncers. Definately digging the samples for Metal Foundry though.

 

[JeffTD]

but piano roll is used for all instruments, not just percussion tracks.

Yeah, I only said it sucks for drum tracks. Of course it's for other things - it's called a piano roll.

 

[SentencedToBurn]

whats a piano? lol

 

[Jason Selden]

Using hyper edit is not really too different than the piano roll...at the end of the day whatever is most comfy for you. I've been using logic's piano roll for programming drums since 2000 and I breeze through it. What guessing are you guys referring to while using the piano roll?

(Edit: Ok, so I tried using hyper edit again after watching Waterboy's tutorial and its neat once its set up but still pretty close to doing it in the piano roll)


J.