AdamWathan
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Is the Mackie Onyx 1200F old and antiquated? There's no Win 7 drivers for that and it was only released about 4 years ago before being discontinued because they lost their manufacturing facility over seas...
PT9 on XP??
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Is the Mackie Onyx 1200F old and antiquated? There's no Win 7 drivers for that and it was only released about 4 years ago before being discontinued because they lost their manufacturing facility over seas...
guitarguru777
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So your comparing this to say something like a Focusrite? How about an RME? How does it stand up? All those in/outs and features are really nice, but it is 4 years old. 4 years in the PC world is a lifetime. You have to look at this from a "technology" standpoint, and not a "time" stand point.
I see 2 issues with your comparison.
1. Onyx Pre's arent all that amazing, I will admit they are better then whats in a Digi, but compared to an RME or Focusrite its no comparison.
2. Mackie has obviously stopped supporting it so that makes it old technology. When a manuafcturer EOL's software / hardware its time to upgrade
As far as upgrades, in my IT environment PC's go 5 years with an extended warranty. After that we toss em and buy new ones. Welcome to the world of technology.
I see 2 issues with your comparison.
1. Onyx Pre's arent all that amazing, I will admit they are better then whats in a Digi, but compared to an RME or Focusrite its no comparison.
2. Mackie has obviously stopped supporting it so that makes it old technology. When a manuafcturer EOL's software / hardware its time to upgrade
As far as upgrades, in my IT environment PC's go 5 years with an extended warranty. After that we toss em and buy new ones. Welcome to the world of technology.
guitarguru777
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+1000000000
Get with the program people XP came out a decade ago. You still running a 10 year old PC? They didnt even know 64bit or multi core processing was coming when they built it. XP 64 is just a hacked up version of Server 2k5.
7 is the first Windows consumer based OS with true 64bit processing and Multi Proc support
462studio
462 Studio
1. I disagree
2. I spoke to someone at Mackie recently and I was told Windows 7 drivers WOULD be available for the 1200 series as soon as they received them from the third party developer working on them. Since the 1200 was released they have also taken all of their development in house.
guitarguru777
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462studio
462 Studio
in reference to all replies like this.
my question wasn't about not upgrading to windows 7 But more so just an honest question to see whether someone had installed it on xp and is still running smoothly. I am also aware that it isnt supported by PT 9.
I'll probably upgrade early next year anyway as I had w7 installed originally, couldn't get drumagog to work so I went back to XP and everything perfect.
hopefully I can sort that out this time.
I was purely hoping I could just install PT9 for the rest of the year as I just bought a Profire 2626 and would like to start using it.
I know how good windows 7 is as I did enjoy my short time with it, bypassing all its silly security options made things alot easier last time if I recall corectly.
thanks for all the replies though.
guitarguru777
Member
You need to understand Pro Tools and Avid are not the problem. XP is old technology there is no reason for them to embrace it.
Anyone nowadays thats running a system thats more then 3 years old, ESPECIALLY if it was'nt the top of the line when you purchased it, just needs to realize PC's dont last.
Even a top of the line PC right now will be obsolete in 3 /4 years. Thats just the way of the world.
Anyone nowadays thats running a system thats more then 3 years old, ESPECIALLY if it was'nt the top of the line when you purchased it, just needs to realize PC's dont last.
Even a top of the line PC right now will be obsolete in 3 /4 years. Thats just the way of the world.
Jind
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Reading my response it can come across harsher than I intended. Sorry for that. As to the technical issues underlying Avids decision to stop supporting XP on the PT9 release, it probably is a Core Audio issue and to go native, they want to ensure as they did with there previous locker to hardware versions, that they have a tight controlled system to support, one with few options at a base level (read OS), but with expanded hardware support.
sprack
Thread Killer
It has more to do with driver support from OEMs and IHV's. XP is a supported OS till 2014, but MS will stop accepting driver submissions for it end of next year. From a long term support perspective Avid has to choose the OS that its customers will be able to get support for.
If PT9 only depends on a valid ASIO device to be present it should still work with XP as it's still just interfacing with the driver rather than a real kernel API.
If PT9 only depends on a valid ASIO device to be present it should still work with XP as it's still just interfacing with the driver rather than a real kernel API.
DigitalMetal
Building a Mini SSL
Ok this is a bit OT but let me explain whay i meant.
Just because an interface is no longer supported with a new OS does not mean its audio peformance has been magically degraded.
I and many other people use a protools Mix TDM system for tracking sometimes with 20 bit and 24 bit interfaces and the sound quality is still better than a brand spanking new interface from many mid range manufacturers, (even at 16 bit ye some people work in 16 bit !!!! its no revelation) an obviously a mix system doesnt work with PT 9 (and thats why this is OT),
PT Mix was plenty good enough to be used on Michael Jacksons Dangerous Album and the quality there is better than most metal records i hear today (and certainly stuff i hear on this forum) .
what i meant when i said be careful with your sweeping statements is that audio quality does not suddenly degrade and become useless just because its not supported anymore by the manufacturer or in the latest OS.
drew_drummer
Dancefap
Is the Mackie Onyx 1200F old and antiquated? There's no Win 7 drivers for that and it was only released about 4 years ago before being discontinued because they lost their manufacturing facility over seas...
Aaaaahhhh.... is that why they stopped making the Mackie Satellite?
