Rate This Mix / Tone! Death-Core 5150/Slate Content

[guitarguru777]

So ....

As I stated on Friday I got called by a local band for a session to do a 3 song demo. After rushing to CG to pick up a set of overheads in a pinch I ran over to set up.

The drummer worked fast setting up his kit and we did a bit of a rush job on mic placement cause we decided to use Trigger to sound replace the kicks. His cymbal setup was a bit unorthodox and the OH's are a little "right" heavy due to this. I picked up a set of Sterling Audio ST-31's for $100 i think they worked all right.

I also picked up some V30s this week for my Marshall cab and the tonal improvement on guitars was AMAZING! The guitars are my 71 Les Paul with Passive Duncans into a TS > 5150. I recorded a DI through my new Countryman just in case But I think the tone we got on the 1st try really works.

Bass guitar is an Ibanez 5 String run through Pod Farm with the "Sub" Line 6 amp and a TS plugin for some grit.

Vocals were done with a Sennheiser e835.

Please feel free to critique and be as critical is you like

There is still some minor drum editing to do but this is about 5 hours work

http://www.jasoncohenitservices.com/DVT.mp3

 

[ruonitb]

The mix sounds good so far. I think it's rather the performance that bugs me. Maybe do the drum editing and then post the mix again...will be better to judge then.

But so far the mix is good (considering it's only supposed to be a demo anyway).

 

[guitarguru777]

Other then the drums any other performance issues?

 

[Mago]

the guitar players dont deliver teh br00tz on the palm mutes I think sounds washy somehow
you could try to bring bass and guitars a bit closer if you know what I mean
theres also timing issues with the guitars I think.
vocals sound good to me though

 

[guitarguru777]

Ya, they aren't the tightest players but I think I got some good results for how sloppy they actually were ...lol

How to the cymbals sound. I think I got the 2 oh mics to close to each other and I don't have enough stereo spread

 

[arv_foh]

I think the mix needs more bass guitar to help fill things out. It doesn't sound very "full" or maybe the bass just needs more lows

 

[Nauru]

I think the mix needs more bass guitar to help fill things out. It doesn't sound very "full" or maybe the bass just needs more lows

+atleast12

And I'm assuming the drums are not yet replaced?

 

[ForefrontStudio]

How to the cymbals sound. I think I got the 2 oh mics to close to each other and I don't have enough stereo spread

agreed. don't be afraid to get pretty close to the cymbals too. did you compress your overheads? sounds like you need to do something to tame the dynamics a bit. weather it be compression, or limiting to kill the snare transient and just bringing the faders up a bit. there are times when it feels like there are no cymbals at all.

 

[Shaun Werle]

The click sounds to snappy. I would leave the low end in the kick. Because i read in a previous thread you cut the low end out. I don't know how you record guitars to unedited drums. I edit the drums to perfection before i record anything else. That just seems to work for me. The OH's sound good to me. Turn them up! The snare is way to dry for my taste. I know you use slate so snare 11a or snare 12 are good beefy snares. The guitars are good. A tiny pit scratchy to me and kind of far back in the mix. I think drum editing will really enhance this mix

Vocals are really dry to. Boost some highs

 

[guitarguru777]

The band was in a rush. We finished drum edits yesterday and now the guitarist is all like DUDE WTF ....hahahaha

We will be re-doing all his parts this weekend.

Ill check out those other snares, and see how it goes.

 

[LosingReality]

What did the 5150 settings look like?

sounds good. I think the guitar could come up just alittle.

 

[guitarguru777]

Andys setting of course

Only difference really was the TS settings and the amp running at 1/2 power

TS settings were
Gain 9:00
Tone: 1:00
Level: 3:00

The Les Paul has passives so I tend to drive the level a bit more to slam the preamp a little harder