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[Sly]

Here is a mix that i'm currently working on :
http://sylvain.raulin.free.fr/Kwatomix.mp3

It's a 11 songs CD.

Now I'm going to add the vocals so that they will fit nicely in the mix.

What do you think ?

 

[KeithRT99]

i assume the drums are programmed? the snare is alittle quiet. The guitars are really middy, but they work.

 

[Pman]

i assume the drums are programmed? the snare is alittle quiet. The guitars are really middy, but they work.

the drums arent programmed
i agree the guitars are a bit middy
also im not a fan of that kick sound too much
otherwise its rockin!

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

Will try to check it out tomorrow (so I'm flaging this )

 

[Zombietakeover]

thats a damn good compliment if you ask me......being mistakened for a machine.....atleast you know your fucking tight

i assume the drums are programmed? the snare is alittle quiet. The guitars are really middy, but they work.

 

[Fuentealba]

I like it very much, actually I would love to sound like that

 

[Sly]

What do you think of this one ?
http://sylvain.raulin.free.fr/Kwato.mp3

This is one complete song, without the voice.
It's overly limited but I'm going to upload a version with nothing on the master bus.

 

[fistula]

i like the guitar sound

what is it?

and yes - the drums sounds toooo sampled an almost no snare on it...

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Man I think the snare and the BD are to quite.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Sly]

The guitars are a Randall Warhead + Warhead special cab (V30).

Mic pre was a Mindprint DTC, and two 57s (Fredman technique).
I'm going to check out the samples.

 

[du8]

The guitar tone is indeed really evil. very nice.

the bus compression is a bit distracting. I imagine it is contributing to the relative flatness of the snare. I would advise backing off the compression before just turning the snare up.

 

[Sly]

Thanks for the answers !

The bus compression (which is the C3 multiband comp) is definitely too much. The snare transient is crushed to hell.
In a few days, I'm going to the studio, to send the snare, kick, bass and vocals through some analog gear (Distressor, 1176...), and I hope to get a more natural touch to it.

The guitar tone is cool, but at the beginning I couldn't figure how to mix it. I recorded it very middy, and the guitarist wanted a lot of gain on the amp. I tried to cut tons of meds from the two mics and the guitar bus (especially in the 300, 600 Hz, 1 khz, and 5 khz, but it ended in sounding flat and thin. So I decided to keep it natural with little touch of EQ, and that's the result. The mix isn't very wide, but has more balls and you can easily hear the real tone of the amp.

If someone has some sugestions or advices on this, they are welcome.

That CD will be mastered by Peter In De Betou @ Tailor Maid.

 

[Sly]

New mix here, Distressor on snare, 1176 on bass drum, parallel comp with a Mindprint DTC :
http://sylvain.raulin.free.fr/Kwato_Droppee.wav

Let me know what you think.
Thanks !

 

[PhilR]

Mix sounds good Sly. The guitars sound nice and ballsy and the drums sound great but I think the bass is lacking the low mid grunt it really needs to lend the track it's full heaviness. Thats one thing I always have trouble nailing. Some basses/amps just can't produce that kind of gutsy grunt...

 

[Sly]

Thanks Phil,

I think i'm going to EQ the bass a little more, but the guitars are a little muddy in the low meds, so maybe I can try to manage to pull off some low meds from the guitars, and boost some from the bass.

 

[fistula]

i like that kick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

fuck yeah) how you did it?

great sound
everything sounds great!

 

[Sly]

Thanks fistula !

This is how it was recorded / mixed :

Drums and bass were recorded into the studio where I work :
A-Designs Pacifica on overheads (C414)
API on snare and toms
Chandler TG2 on room mics if I remember well
etc.

Bass was MD421, D112, and an API DI. We used a Line 6 guitar disto on the bass too.
Converters in the studio are 2 MOTU HD 192 + Apogee Bigben clock.

Guitars were recorded with a Randall Warhead, Warhead cab (V30 !). Two 57 and Fredman technique through a Mindprint DTC, to a MOTU 828, into my home studio.

For the vocals (you'll hear that soon), I was lent a Brauner VM1, and used a Purple Audio Biz pre, into the 828.

Mixing :

5 samples on the snare + original take, tons of EQ and filtering => Distressor on "nuke" mode.

2 samples on the kick, one for the click, and an other for the meat => UA 1176

Parallel comp and EQ on the drumbus with the Mindprint DTC.
Thsi really helped the drums to pump out.

I used the PSP MasterQ to EQ the guitars, one 57 is high in the mix and brings the agression and width when panned. The other is low and brings some low meds.

Bass : tons of EQ/filetring on each track => bass bus through Germanium with "thick" mode ON => Distressor with disto 3 activated.

Nothing on the master bus, mister Peter In De Betou will have some headroom to work.

 

[fistula]

and the samples are from this session?

maybe you can share a bit)

thats the kick sound i was searching - and couldnt find... and here it is)

 

[PhilR]

You're lucky to have access to that kind of high-end gear Sly, I'm more than a bit jealous. We rented a Universal Audio 2-channel pre and a distressor once... We didn't want to give them back!

 

[Tym_ex]

I love the evil sounding production! Mixing wise the guitars could sound a little airier (is that a word?), a bit more transparent. The kick is a little too middy for me. The snare could maybe use some extra TAK.