J.
Old Fart
cthulufhtagn said:
and yet people STILL listen to Cult of Luna. i think being "open minded" is a buzzword people use so they can justify listening to crap.
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Recommendation: Underøath Define the Great Line
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and yet people STILL listen to Cult of Luna. i think being "open minded" is a buzzword people use so they can justify listening to crap.
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dill_the_devil
OneMetal.com Music Editor
jimbobhickville said:
Sikth are -core now? Wow, and I thought that genre tags had been twisted beyond all recognition previously...
Oh, and I couldn't give a shit what the band look like - the music they produce is what's important. A band could be a group of skateboarding midgets for all I care, as long as their shit sounds good.
Hell Mike
fuck melodic black metal
Hated them since way before they were in among the gay crowdJ. said:and yet people STILL listen to Cult of Luna. i think being "open minded" is a buzzword people use so they can justify listening to crap.
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circus_brimstone
Forest: Sold Out
cthulufhtagn said:
dude, just like I said to jimbobhickville: those are METAL bands. They are NOT in the same vain as Underoath. Underoath is not metal. I would say they have metal elements to their music, but they are definitely more rock or "screamo" than metal.
Which goes to show that there is still the association of the "scene" in which Underoath (and probably many other bands from that vain) are from and thus receiving perhaps unwarranted harshness from this board. This principle is the exact same as way Ulver still holds a relatively METAL oriented crowd when they've ceased to be metal for nearly a decade.
circus_brimstone said:Underoath are a self-proclaimed screamo band.
And what does that have to do with anything? This remark only goes to show your distain for the entire genre, which is perfectly fine. To make objective reviews based on that however is not really fair to the artist considering that you're already coming from a NEGATIVE position prior to even HEARING the music.
cthulufhtagn
Went Out for Smokes 13 Years Ago
oh yeah, i was just naming some bands that i've seen people here write off as being "core" that are obviously not and shouldn't be lumped in with bands like underoathFurious B said:
J. said:
Actually, I thought this would be interesting for a thread or discussion. I agree with the "open minded" thing. I think there is a huge difference that I think people mistakenly consider being "open minded" and having DEPTH in your tastes. Moreover, how to do you seperate QUALITY and TASTE in an objective sense. Is it possible to dislike something and still objectively feel it is of QUALITY? I think it would be cool to differentiate and discuss THAT.
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Would you like them better if they were in a forest, wearing armor and corpsepaint? This is a serious question and goes out to anyone that lol'd at either of the bands now in question.
cthulufhtagn
Went Out for Smokes 13 Years Ago
no, armor and corpsepaint would be much much worse, at least now they're truthful in their advertising
dill_the_devil
OneMetal.com Music Editor
How many people here have actually heard any of Cult Of Luna's first three albums? The first, self-titled one in particular was really, really fucking heavy.
yeah, never got the armor thing or the corpsepaint thing, which is probably a major factor in my derision for power metal and black metal, in general (there are exceptions). Doesn't help that the music doesn't sound that interesting to me, though, so it's not entirely the image thing.
Demonspell
cheating the polygraph
I try to disregard image as much as possible and an emo-ish pose isn't going to turn me away from a band forever (like the above post, I find any sort of "look at us, we're fucking metal!" uniform to be just as dumb), even if I happen to disdain anything associated with emo, which I'll admit prevents me from giving this band an objective listen (not Cult of Luna, who I've already been underwhelmed by)...
circus_brimstone
Forest: Sold Out
Furious B said:
Nah, dude. My post was directed at jimbobhickville who was trying to decide what to call Underoath - metalcore or screamo. My post was an attempt to settle the matter.
Anyway, I like screamo. I own several screamo albums. I own all of Underoath's albums. I liked "They're Only Chasing Safety" a lot (look for my review in the archives). I was looking forward to "Define the Great Line." I was disappointed.
I hate this thread - not the original post, but what it's devolved into.
In my defense I was only sarcastically laughing at the COL picture. As I said I've never heard them anyhow.
I listened to Shogun earlier, just left work before I could post my thoughts. Sounded pretty cool, more Neurosis-ish than anything, but that's always a good thing. And, of course, they don't sound like clones, I'm just saying Neurosis is a good reference point.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Caught the video for this on THbB. To my ear, there was nothing that distinguished these guys from any of the other of dozens of Mallcore bands that dominate that show.
Zod
Zod
cthulufhtagn
Went Out for Smokes 13 Years Ago
k i actually listened to this...man i wish the vocalist would just go through with it and slit his wrists already
i actually think the opening riff is ok, sounds almost like at the drive-in, until the vocals come in and the whole thing shits out its metaphorical guts all over the floor, and man does it stink
i actually think the opening riff is ok, sounds almost like at the drive-in, until the vocals come in and the whole thing shits out its metaphorical guts all over the floor, and man does it stink
