Regarding technicality...

[MegaMoose]

I know this is kinda off topic, and I'm not exactly sure what I'm asking, but here goes.

Well, from what I can tell, most guitar playing that's considered "technical" is constant million-beats-per-minute playing, sometimes with random time signature changes every two seconds, etc.

I know next to nothing about guitar, but I've been a classical pianist for eight years, and I know that techical doesn't necessarily entail playing fast. I find that pieces that aren't always extremely fast and still require more technique and pactice.

The word "technical" implies that technique is emphasized, and playing fast is just one technique. Hell, it's not even really a technique. It's just a matter of working a piece up to a fast tempo. so basically, what is so technical about just playing fast, and what else could be considered technical.

 

[Risquit]

I would argue that Meshugga's Catch 33 is technical, and its probably their slowest album.

 

[SacredReich]

Because no matter how simple something is that you play, if you play it fast enough it's technically impressive. It takes good technique to play a semi-complicated riff extremely fast.

That said, I agree that it doesn't have to be fast to be technical. But more often than not, a very complicated riff in metal is played with some speed adding even more to the technicality of the piece. anyone can play anything very, very slowly.

 

[cuntface]

Because no matter how simple something is that you play, if you play it fast enough it's technically impressive. It takes good technique to play a semi-complicated riff extremely fast.

That said, I agree that it doesn't have to be fast to be technical. But more often than not, a very complicated riff in metal is played with some speed adding even more to the technicality of the piece. anyone can play anything very, very slowly.

i play both guitar and classical piano. piano and guitar are quite differnt, techincal playing is differnt on both instuments. faster playing is always going to be harder, but still piano played slowly can be alot more techincal that playing guitar slowly like ^ said anyone can play guitar very very slowly you only have one hand to worry about wer as piano u will be using 2 hands to do diffent things and ther can be much more movemnt playing piano. arpeggios on guitar can be played without realy changing where ur hand is on the neck yet with piano u will have to move and u can be also doing something with u other hand making it far more techincal than guitar. yet i say that but then some wankers will do stuff like that on guitar and perform classical scores for piano on guitar and tap the extra notes and that is techincal! BUT GAY!

 

[Don Corleone]

john scofield - an example of slow technicality.

 

[Kenneth R.]

john scofield - an example of slow technicality.

now we're talking.

 

[affinityband]

I just want to stress how important it is to play something slowly when learning. So many guitarists or pianists, try to learn something harder/technical/faster at the speed it is played on the actual song. It just sounds like shit and they dont absorb that part of the song properly and it just sounds like a shit knock off.

 

[Tyraz]

Technical guitar playing is not just a question of speed but also rhythm. Jon Schaffer of Iced Earth writes the same galopping riffs over and over again but he plays them so precisely and accurate that I find myself listening to his old stuff again and again. Furthermore I think playing around with time sigs and stuff is way more technical than just playing fast. Listen to some Tool to get it.

 

[cuntface]

Technical guitar playing is not just a question of speed but also rhythm. Jon Schaffer of Iced Earth writes the same galopping riffs over and over again but he plays them so precisely and accurate that I find myself listening to his old stuff again and again. Furthermore I think playing around with time sigs and stuff is way more technical than just playing fast. Listen to some Tool to get it.

i dont listen to iced earth but gallop rythums arnt hard.

 

[affinityband]

Stop making yourself out to be some sort of pro mark.:Smug:

 

[Tyraz]

i dont listen to iced earth but gallop rythums arnt hard.

I consider myself a hardly decent guitar player and can do gallop rhythms without problems. At triple speed and through a set of 2 hours with almost only gallop structures I completely fail. It's only one aspect of technical playing, not the only important one of course.

 

[Kenneth R.]

the most important in my mind is note transition. from here to the next, the choice of note, a decision which repeats at every finger change. this decision, to me, seperates the virtuoso from the technically skilled. knowing where to take a melody.

 

[Braighs]

^ exactly. Mike's solo in ASBNH has a lot of empty space. But it is genious because of where he takes that final note.

 

[affinityband]

What song is ASBNH?!

 

[Braighs]

^ Ariving somewhere but not here. -PT

 

[affinityband]

ah right, I never listen to that track. I should.

 

[Risquit]

ah right, I never listen to that track. I should.

You, and everybody. Great song. Belongs in some Top 100 of all time list.

 

[cuntface]

Stop making yourself out to be some sort of pro mark.:Smug:

chris u know ther not.

 

[affinityband]

And i know your not

 

[cuntface]

And i know your not

and i know ur not