room mic guitar cab impulses?

s34nsm411

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does anyone have any? i always hear about people combining a direct mic with a room mic further back for heavy stuff and have always wanted to see how much of an effect it has

and as long as we're talking about it, do any of you all have experience with using this method? how was the result?
 
i've use it when the situation calls for it, not so much as a room mic but more of an additional mic to enhance certain frequencies, my goal when recording guitars is to use little to no eq adjustments, i usually mix 2-3 mics, i tend to use 2 dynamics+1 condenser. i'll set them up with the following starting point, have the 1-2 dynamics(sm57 and/or md421) close mic'ed, then listen starting at about 12-16 inches from speaker with the condenser, it does act like a room mic by picking up the sound of the room and less of the direct speaker.

the technique can bring a world of ease depending on what your application and tone your looking for, i like heavy full bodied guitar tones(eg mids) with a little upper frequency clarity, so a majority of the tone is coming from the close miced dynamics, but i use the pushed back condenser to pickup a bit more clarity, not too much just only like a 10-12% mix with dynamics.

but you have a good selection of condensers to use for this application, anything with at least a 150db spl rating.

but my reasoning behind using this technique is that i hate eq'ing mics, if i don't have to i won't, so thats why i mix multiple mics to give me the tone i want and with little to no eq at all, when recording i mix the muiltiple mics into a single bus, so what i achieve is the tone i want, no eq in most cases, so i just record the track and off i go.

but major factors in using this technique is dependent what type of tone you want to achieve, a lot of the tones can be done much simpler, but if you like messing around with the eq all day thats your choice, this technique also requires a lot to consider, everything from speaker choice to room choice to mic choice and mic configuration.
 
It can be cool, be careful to get them in phase though. Also depends on how good your room sounds, how far back you have them, how present they are blah blah blah. It's easy to muddy up your mix quickly with them so be sure to filter out whatever you don't want from them.
 
Distance miking makes the room more a part of the sound. Something to be careful with but can sound amazing, I like it for solos. Jimmy page is a big spokesman for the "Distance makes depth." maxim, I tried it and was pleased with the result.

When listening to the gtr bleeding in from the other room on a solo, I heard some sour notes, I was surprised to hear the guitarist say, "That's it, that's the take!" On playback I noticed the room cleaned those notes up so well, that I will often have a room mic for solos.