So....just this thought about drugs...

I drink and smoke tobacco, not addicted to either. I don't binge drink and I smoke only a handful of times a week. I have drunk and smoked a lot more, I just choose not to. Don't smoke because it's illegal but don't have any moral obligations beyond that.

I love drinking and I love smoking. I just don't want to become dependent, so I keep it cool.
 
This!

I started drinking and smoking when I was 19, long after I graduated high school because I was so anti drugs. It didn't help that all the retards I went to school with treated booze and weed like it was some part of social status, like "I went to school high today, hey everyone look at me I am so cool".

But I keep stashed up on weed, booze is never consistent in my house since my father is an alcoholic, he just killed a half bottle of my Jager and decided to hide it.

Every now and then to light up a bowl with a Jagerbomb and shoot the shit with friends over music and Hookah in your backyard after a long day, its a great thing. As said before, its moderation.


Yeah I can relate with the "look I'm cool cos I drink thing".
A lot of kids I knew picked up drinking when they were 13-14 because it was the in thing to do, as well as smoking.
I didn't really start drinking until I was 17.
Didn't really start smoking cigs until I was 19.
Only really started smoking pot 7 months ago (I was 20 then, 21 now).
 
I have a bit of a bar stocked up with nice liqours/beers to drink when chilling, but I'll fully admit to just raging and getting shitfaced at parties every other weekend or so. Once I'm old enough to actually like... hit the bars in town, instead of the frat parties with the dumb slut sorostitutes, I have a feeling the raging will be cut down significantly.
 
I have a bit of a bar stocked up with nice liqours/beers to drink when chilling, but I'll fully admit to just raging and getting shitfaced at parties every other weekend or so. Once I'm old enough to actually like... hit the bars in town, instead of the frat parties with the dumb slut sorostitutes, I have a feeling the raging will be cut down significantly.

Yeah, that was my experience.
Now that I'm old enough to get out for a good night on the town, there's none of those stupid "everyone get shit faced and find the biggest slut to hook up with" crap anymore.
I also noticed I make an effort to look decent now and wear nice clothes when I hit a night on the town, whereas back in the younger days of extreme binge drinking I was "thrash metal, woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!" and just wore scummy old jeans and band t shirts all the time
 
I totally get drinking in moderation, but getting stoned in moderation is something that's impossible.

completely untrue

i know plenty of people(myself included) who smoke weed on an occasional basis only. for a couple years i used to be an all day/everyday smoker, but i don't like being in that herb-induced haze all the time anymore. i might go buy a bag and make it last like 2 weeks, just taking a toke when i'm at home by myself, staying up to work on some music, or hanging out with some friends.


You don't smoke weed because it tastes good, now you do it for the feeling
you get from it.

and the same can't be said about alcohol? how many people do you know who like the taste of vodka?

And I really want to meet a 40 year old person who smoked weed from his teens up until now who is a productive member of society.

i have an uncle who is a TV producer at a large station in a large metro area, and he loves smoking weed. dude is in his 60s, has a gorgeous house in one of the best areas to live in the US, drives a sweet car, and generally has his shit together - and him and all his ex-hippie buddies still love smoking weed when they're hanging out and relaxing.

a lot of people just don't understand that there's a time and place for certain things!
 
Oh dude I rage classy. We dress up when we go out here - sluts have never looked so respectable as on an american college campus.

especially rich-ass, spoiled-ass, SLO bitches

also, bars in SLO will kick you the hell out in a heartbeat if you're trashed...they keep it pretty clean 'round them parts!
 
I smoke grass 3-5 times a year.

I get drunk (like piss fuck drunk) maybe twice a year when buddies are town.

But as far as having a beer with dinner type of thing? Yeah every week all year, but we are talking 5 in 7 days kind of numbers.

And I quit smoking 3 years ago, it fucking sucked. Quitting is hard as hell.
 
,,I'd rather spend that money on beer than paying for weed,,

And what's the fucking diffrence between these two? It has been proven both alcohol(yes beer is still an alcohol and of top of that is proven to increase chance of anus cancer, serious) and weed are both as bad for you. I know beer is ,,metal,, and ,,manly,, and stuff but seriously, both serve mindfucking, and to be honest, alcoholics usually ruin their own lifes and lifes of people around them, weed addicts ruin just their own lifes so i prefer when fucked up people fuck up just themselves and not the others in the process.

That said I am for both weed and alcohol, both are fun when used properly, both can give you some laughs, etc etc so on. Point is both alcohol and weed is for smart people. Stupid people can fuck themselves up with ANY addiction(check food addicts, computer addicts, or even the metal addict from the other thread here(ROFL)).
 
Weed is definitely not as bad for you as alcohol dude (from a strictly physical health perspective anyway)
 
Define productive member of society? My girlfriend and I are both medical transcriptionist, we work from home and we make more than enough money to support ourselves and our 2 doggies. We both have smoked every day since we were in our younger teens, and we are both in our mid twenties now. Our boss owns her own ranch, is active in her kids' school sports and PTO programs and she owns an embroidery business as well... She also tokes every day. I know a couple that are in their mid 50's, they both are registered nurses that work at a local hospital and guess what, they get high too. One of my closest friends works at the same hospital as a respiratory therapist. He graduated from college top of his class and now also teaches the 1st and 2nd year students at the local college, smoking massive amounts of dank buds the whole time. The point is that weed is not physically addictive like crack, coke, meth, alcohol, etc. A lot of people would be failures whether they started smoking or not. I guess its something people only understand if they have been smoking for a long time, but I could understand a non-smoker having a different point of view on the matter.

yeah, i dont think its the substance itself, just an addiction or dependancy on the ACT of smoking.