So, my guitarist's dad had Bob Katz's Mastering Audio lying around...

hey man, be prepared to experience your head to hyper-explode.
I also had the opportunity once to read that book when I started out.
however, as a noob it was way to complicated for me but enjoy.
 
Wow, I didn't expect this much foreign information.

I find it a bit funny that there is so much science on this. I could make a quick master to a track, with my extremely small amount of knowledge on the topic, and the general audience wouldn't even care.
At least, I know when I listened to music without any interest in audio engineering that I didn't care too much about the quality, as long as it was good.

But, there's all this science on making it "perfect." It seems to me like it's a wasted effort, honestly, because the majority of people who buy the music don't care for the science or about whether the sound is "perfect" or just "good" because what they're hearing is the artist, not the engineer..

I'm still intrigued though. :L
 
Wow, I didn't expect this much foreign information.

I find it a bit funny that there is so much science on this. I could make a quick master to a track, with my extremely small amount of knowledge on the topic, and the general audience wouldn't even care.
At least, I know when I listened to music without any interest in audio engineering that I didn't care too much about the quality, as long as it was good.

But, there's all this science on making it "perfect." It seems to me like it's a wasted effort, honestly, because the majority of people who buy the music don't care for the science or about whether the sound is "perfect" or just "good" because what they're hearing is the artist, not the engineer..

I'm still intrigued though. :L

even if it's subconcious, believe me, the "detail" taken to make it "perfect" makes a big difference. Many people won't realize the detail, but the sum of all the small things in the end makes for a better enjoyment of the final product whether you actually notice it or not
 
I definitely agree with that.
From my perspective, as it is, it just seems like a lot of information without too much of a difference.
Surely, the sales are mostly reliant on the artist themselves.

The science of it all is just fascinating though.
I barely understand anything I'm reading, and I love when that happens.. makes me want to be able to understand it!
 
even if it's subconscious, believe me, the "detail" taken to make it "perfect" makes a big difference. Many people won't realize the detail, but the sum of all the small things in the end makes for a better enjoyment of the final product whether you actually notice it or not

a lot of 80's albums have really shitty sounds and are still a lot purchased nowadays... Before playing guitar, I couldn't hear anything clearly in a song excepted the voice, now that I work a bit on recording, my ears have evolved a lot again... but still... sometimes you don't need to go really deep to achieve something that other people will like. my 2 cents
 
a lot of 80's albums have really shitty sounds and are still a lot purchased nowadays... Before playing guitar, I couldn't hear anything clearly in a song excepted the voice, now that I work a bit on recording, my ears have evolved a lot again... but still... sometimes you don't need to go really deep to achieve something that other people will like. my 2 cents

Nothing like the 80´s metal sound!! All were true!! Today, all is false!!
 
I find it a bit funny that there is so much science on this. I could make a quick master to a track, with my extremely small amount of knowledge on the topic, and the general audience wouldn't even care.
At least, I know when I listened to music without any interest in audio engineering that I didn't care too much about the quality, as long as it was good.

But, there's all this science on making it "perfect." It seems to me like it's a wasted effort, honestly, because the majority of people who buy the music don't care for the science or about whether the sound is "perfect" or just "good" because what they're hearing is the artist, not the engineer..

The majority of people would notice if track number three had a nasty click or pop because the ME didn't have the tools or skills to efficiently remove it, or his monitoring situation was so lacking he didn't actually even hear it. The majority of people would notice if the album made their car subwoofers go insane. Pretty much everyone would notice if the album was utterly smashed, clipping and pumping. The artist would DEFINITELY notice if they weren't getting paid for radio play due to the lack of ISRC codes because, quite honestly, the ME was a fraud. The duplication plant would notice if the ME sent out a "PMCD" burnt in iTunes from MP3's into a crap CD-R media. Mastering is so much more than just making tracks loud.

As I'm typing this rant it's 2:10AM here and I'm currently uploading the DDPi of an album I just finished mastering and burning reference copies for the artist. Why? Because the artist paid me for a professional service and I want to make sure he gets nothing less.
 
I wasn't saying that all the science wasn't important. I was saying that it seemed unnecessary.

Like.. while painting a wall, you can use either a brush or a roller.
With a brush, you take more time and pay way more attention to detail. With a roller, you just, ya know, roll..

A brush makes it perfect. A roller misses some spots, but it's not so bad. They both get the job done. Obviously, the brush is better, but unnecessary if not too many people really care that much about the paint job because all their attention is focused on the furniture.. or something like that.
 
I wasn't saying that all the science wasn't important. I was saying that it seemed unnecessary.

Like.. while painting a wall, you can use either a brush or a roller.
With a brush, you take more time and pay way more attention to detail. With a roller, you just, ya know, roll..

A brush makes it perfect. A roller misses some spots, but it's not so bad. They both get the job done. Obviously, the brush is better, but unnecessary if not too many people really care that much about the paint job because all their attention is focused on the furniture.. or something like that.

Nah. A good painter knows when to use a brush and when to use a roller ;)
 
I see what you're saying, but I think the majority of the tonal quality should come from the performance first, tracking ability and mixing. And I know what you mean by the majority of what we try to accomplish completely goes over the head of the audience but it's still nice that we have this community for ourselves to appreciate the work we all do, sure the 14 year old blasting the song on a ipod boombox isn't going to notice that you bumped the guitars at 5 k and that doesn't mean he isn't going to enjoy the song any less, but allowing everyone in this community to discuss and scrutinize each others mixes has really turned this into an art form.