I dunno I really think C&C are an epic band, once you get over his voice. And that curly haired spic really goes all the fuck out live. He does sick guitar tricks that put Slash to shame. And their show was the most brutal show I have ever attended, it was so insane the crowd was nuts, it was so violent and chaotic that I actually left the gate because I was scared for my own safety. People were trampling people pretty much. But meh.