Suicide Solution

[AlexStomp]

Jack Russell should just off himself. I've been reading alot of shit and all the blame is pointing in Great White and Crew's direction. 2 clubs have stepped forward and said they were never asked or notified and now the owner of Jaxx (a club that Thrax has played twice at) said that the next date of that Great White tour was booked there and no one contacted him about the Pyro. Jack Russell looks like a fat bumbling idiot in the interviews. He's so done. I'm sorry if I offend anyone or any fans or musicians but it looks like Jack Russell's Great White and crew are to blame for their complete negligence and disregard. 96 people dead and far more burned and scarred for life. A bad name now to bands that make a living out of touring clubs. Those fuckers fucked alot of people. Yes, there were more people than capacity allows but that happens all the time with no incident whatsoever. It's more of like a guidline anyway. Do people drive the speed limit all the time?? 5mph over? 10? 15?

It's the complete negligence and disregard of Jack Russell's Great White and crew who are responsible. Furthermore, they lost one of their own. What a bunch of Jackasses.

 

[Jono]

yeah that was a small ass club for pyro
fucking dumbasses.
-Jono-

 

[Jono]

I just read the MSN.com article. The firmarshal said that they were slightly under maximum capacity which is 300. and that the club had no permit for pyrotechnics. so that makes me even more sure that the club had not agreed to have them.
-Jono-

 

[jdelpi]

Jack Russell sounded like a dumbass in the press where he said he tried putting the fire out with his water bottle. It almost looked like he was joking.



Life is just a one way ticket
Everyone must go around
Here's a bucket, go and kick it
Slit your wrists without a sound
When you go dont make a big deal
No dramatics, dont overplay
Cause don't you know that we'll all feel
Better once you've gone away

 

[mrthrax]

i still cant get over the fact that they used pyro when the roof is so low?

just bloody stupid

 

[AlexStomp]

whew! When I signed back online, I thought I would get flamed for this one. It appears as if everyone's seeing it my way.

 

[mrthrax]

all the evidence so far points to band for blame.

 

[SLAYER85]

ive never been to a pyro indoor show. primarily it makes no damn sense to have an indoor pyro show.

 

[bRaTpRiNcEsS]

Well, arenas can handle it but anything smaller is just plain stupid.

I saw on the news here that he was here by himself (not Great White) last week or the week before in Scottsdale and wanted to use pyro but didn't get the permit so he didn't use any. Probably more like the fire department laughed at him when he asked for it...

He did look really stupid in the two interviews I saw shortly after the fire. Yes, shooting flames cower in the presence of 12 ounces of bottled water...

 

[Jono]

and even in arenas they have to worry about ventelation for the snoke. The smoke alone could have caused many health problems if the roof never caught.
-Jono-

 

[TD]

I think we're jumping the gun a bit placing the blame exclusively on Jack Russel. Any club owner with an ounce of couth would've seen the materials that were to be used as pyrotechnic displays and said "no." Bands that have played The Station are starting to come out and say that always used pyro when they played, and employees are saying the same thing. The owner/manager is just as culpable, if not more so, than Great White.

 

[jdelpi]

Originally posted by TD
I think we're jumping the gun a bit placing the blame exclusively on Jack Russel. Any club owner with an ounce of couth would've seen the materials that were to be used as pyrotechnic displays and said "no." Bands that have played The Station are starting to come out and say that always used pyro when they played, and employees are saying the same thing. The owner/manager is just as culpable, if not more so, than Great White.

Maybe it's just me but wouldn't you test pyro before the show?
I am sure there is plenty of blame to throw around in this one.

 

[Armored Thrax]

Anyone have their self-titled "GreatWhite". Came out around 1985 or so, before they turned to hair band shit. Pretty good metal album..........its funny what makes you dust off an old album you haven't listened to in years.

 

[TD]

Originally posted by jdelpi
Maybe it's just me but wouldn't you test pyro before the show?
I am sure there is plenty of blame to throw around in this one.

That's a nice thought Justin, but actually, I don't think any band "tests" pyro. It's too expensive to do test runs with. The "proper" way to do it (kiss, ac/dc) is to have the exact amount, and when and where it will be used all written up, so the fire marshall can approve of it prior to inking the deal.

One of the chief complaints about a KISS or AC/DC show is that it is the same show exactly every night, and that is why - they blow up so much shit that everything needs to be done in an exact way so the pyro guys and the band members and roadies no when to be where.

There is plenty of blame to go around, but placing it solely on Jack Russel is ludicrous. The people who work the venue would have seen the flahpots, gurbs, pods, or whatever Great White were using, so for the venue to act so shocked, is pathetic. Every KISS tribute band plays at that place, and I GUARANTEE you they use pyro there.

I bet we'll find out that it is illegal period to use pyro in a place so small, so the bands and the venue keep it out of the contract langauge so the fire marshalls never think it is used.

 

[dutchy]

peroxide youre hair makes people stupid!!!
how's that for a t-shirt!!!

 

[iroc z28]

However, other club owners say they asked permission where denied and complied with no 'tude and were cordial or where asked and o.k.'d.

Wine is fine but, whiskey's quicker!