the black dahlia murder rumor

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edit: this applies to their most recent record

i heard that in order to get tighter guitar tracks, they were recorded a little slow and then sped up to the real tempos.

and on another hand..

i heard the guitar tracks were put together in peices some how?

just interested if anyone heard these things and if they know about them.

please dont flame about how gay i am for asking. these are things i heard from a liable source, and im looking for more truth to the matter.

i also do not care if they did it or not, whatever makes the metal precise.
sadly, i doubt anyone involved in the matter wants to reveal if they did or not.
 
Well, from what we know they haven't cheated on their previous records, so I doubt it...

Red Planet said:
Miasma was recorded with a dual rec and a krank revolution. In the mix we added a touch of an engle head for a little more top end. The whole thing was done to PTHD with an api 3412 and a vintech 1272. At that time the only real compressor I had was an empirical labs fatso. We mixed at trax east with Eric Rachel thru a neotek elite down to half inch tape.

The whole record is just two takes of guitar panned left and right, other then the overdubbed solos. Both players played all their own parts, rather then have one guy do all the rythmns. So you can hear two distinct players. One side has slightly better rythmn, the other side has a slightly tighter picking hand.

Nothing on the record was cheated. Nothing was copied and pasted or looped. Most of the drum takes are one take. Obviously there was some drum edits, but not as much as you'd think. There was no editing on the guitars or bass.

The whole thing was a party. Trevor was pretty out of his mind during most of the vocal tracking. Everyday would start with bong and vaporizer hits and tons of aderoll. By nightime drinking would start and we'd come in pretty hungover the next day and do it all again.

As compared to most metal records you're hearing a real band playing, not some dude that sat in front of a computer for a month lining up every note.
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oh god is this going to be an ongoing arguement of ethics or some shit haha. I am gonna say just do whatever gets the job done.
 
Dandelium said:
+1

The only think it matters for me is the final result, i don't care how did they record or if James Hetfield recorded the rythm guitars for them.

Ethics is not a concept that matches production for me.
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Yeah definantly. I record my songs riff by riff. I just see it being easier tighter and quicker. Now If someone wants to record something slow and have me speed it up thats fine. I just want their record to sound awesome. If they cant pull it off live thats their problem.
 
This has nothing to do with the question BUT Yesterday I saw TBDM play at Rock and Shock and they came out to the Scooby doo theme song all dressed up like the characters on the show. Strnad as lead Scooby. That solidified them in my mind as coolest band ever.

and I quote!
"YOU GUYS READY TO SOLVE SOME MYSETERIES AND SHIT!"

Right before a breakdown too, "ROOBY ROOBY ROOOOOOO"

They were tight as shit too, I think that's all a bunch of bs to be real. They were way good live, where it matters most.
 
Hi there everyone. I am new to the metal forum, and must say that I think this is all very cool!
I tracked the vox and drums for the Nocturnal record and can end the rumors now about the guitars...There was no such thing at all! Brian tracked the majority of the rhythm guitars. Jon all the solos. There were many different amp combinations going for the entire process. Started with a 5150, went to a Dual Rect, a stilletto, even to a roadster if I remember correctly. The DI's were tracked through a radial JD7 injector > Api312. After tracking was finished the files were sent to Audiohammer and Mark lewis reamped the guitars into the eargasm you hear on CD.

Kyle
 
\m/

i listened to this album yesterday, and it doesn't sound like there's anything that's played fast enough that they'd need to slow shit down anyways...
 
Alphamale1 said:
Hi there everyone. I am new to the metal forum, and must say that I think this is all very cool!
I tracked the vox and drums for the Nocturnal record and can end the rumors now about the guitars...There was no such thing at all! Brian tracked the majority of the rhythm guitars. Jon all the solos. There were many different amp combinations going for the entire process. Started with a 5150, went to a Dual Rect, a stilletto, even to a roadster if I remember correctly. The DI's were tracked through a radial JD7 injector > Api312. After tracking was finished the files were sent to Audiohammer and Mark lewis reamped the guitars into the eargasm you hear on CD.

Kyle
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care to share any details about the tracking? what amp made it in the end?
 
Chryst Krispies said:
This has nothing to do with the question BUT Yesterday I saw TBDM play at Rock and Shock and they came out to the Scooby doo theme song all dressed up like the characters on the show. Strnad as lead Scooby. That solidified them in my mind as coolest band ever.

and I quote!
"YOU GUYS READY TO SOLVE SOME MYSETERIES AND SHIT!"

Right before a breakdown too, "ROOBY ROOBY ROOOOOOO"
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:lol: awesome
 
We sent the tracks off to AudioHammer for final Mixdown. To my knowledge, Mark Lewis (aka the axeman) re amped the guitars through a Mesa dual rec through the audiohammer mesa cab mic'd with a 57. Any further details would have to be confirmed through him. Next time we talk, I'll ask again.
Bart tracked bass through his own sans amp unit, the model escapes me. It was pinkish or salmon colored on the front if that helps. Trevors vox were tracked in a small carpeted room, using an SM7 with no roll off > Fearn VT-2 vacuum tube preamp set so hot I turned off the meters so I wouldn't get in trouble> summit audio TLA, fast attack, slow release > my Digi002. The guys were all great to work with, especially the "production meetings" at the beginning of the day!

-Kyle
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myspace.com/bluecollarbrutality
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