The Downloading Poll (at the behest of Management)
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Bryan316
METAL... nuff said!
If I didn't download bands' songs that have been randomly suggested to me over the years, I'd never have heard of so many many MANY bands. Cuz this kinda stuff ain't sold at Kmart or Target or Best Buy. If I just consider all the albums I've got in my car, there's whole catalogs of Edguy, Blind Guardian, Kamelot, Manticora, Symphony X, Angra, Dream Evil, hell even Brian Setzer Orchestra in my car that I never woulda bought. So what's that? Maybe 60-80 discs just from those bands? Nevermind my Dream Theater and MetallicA and Ozzy and MegadetH.....
The music industry is getting shit-tons of my money. Just not going into Linkin Park or Limp Bizkit or Breaking Benjamin or Avril Lavigne.
The music industry is getting shit-tons of my money. Just not going into Linkin Park or Limp Bizkit or Breaking Benjamin or Avril Lavigne.
J-Dubya 777
It NEVER ends
I DL as well as get promos from friends who are vendors. I buy what I like, and delete what I don't. Budget is too tight to just blind buy EVERYTHING..
I chose what so far everyone else has chosen, with one caveat: I will download and not buy if it's out of print. I'm not scouring secondary markets to spend $30-$50 on old CDs where the purchase doesn't benefit the band.
Rycher
Oskee Wow Wow!
Downloading is wrong, regardless.
There's a difference between downloading a track or two to sample (now streaming songs through Youtube and Myspace are replacing this option), and downloading an entire album. That's where I draw the line.
There's a difference between downloading a track or two to sample (now streaming songs through Youtube and Myspace are replacing this option), and downloading an entire album. That's where I draw the line.
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
I chose #2 but want to clarify. Anything you like enough to listen to you should purchase. I don't think it's OK to only buy CD's of your favorites, and keep downloaded MP3's of "the rest". I'm thinking more of the shareware concept, ie try out for a limited time before deciding to either make the purchase or remove/delete the trial.
I chose #2 but want to clarify. Anything you like enough to listen to you should purchase. I don't think it's OK to only buy CD's of your favorites, and keep downloaded MP3's of "the rest". I'm thinking more of the shareware concept, ie try out for a limited time before deciding to either make the purchase or remove/delete the trial.
Just clarify Option #2... when I said "buy what you like", I meant just that. Not just CDs you love, not just CDs you feel are classics, but any CD you feel compelled to listen to four or five times.
Zod
Zod
eaeolian
Division Guitarist
BlackRoseMetalHeart
Metal Mistress
I'm all for folks using downloading as a way to discover new music, just as long as it's not at the band's or the artist's expense. (Although I personally do more uploading from CDs, than downloading from the internet.) I also don't mind blind buying some of the time (I do this most frequently at ProgPower), but I don't even have to do that too often because I date a guy who's a fairly knowledgeable metal music resource and who works in the local record store where I buy most of my music. I guess that makes it a bit less of a guessing game for me.
If it wasn't for me downloading albums, I wouldn't like metal like I do now, and I wouldn't own as many albums as I do.
So, downloading is fine with me (obviously).
So, downloading is fine with me (obviously).
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
Yep, I definitely view it this way as well, which is why I put buy what you "like" as opposed to buy what you "love" in my initial response. But this is definitely an important clarification though.
Jason
Law wise it's wrong but I think as long as you support the artist in the end, how you listen to them in the first place isn't that big of a deal. Downloading is the new cassette trading of the 80s. It used to be you'd make a mix tape for a friend and then they could purchase what they wanted. This is just much more widespread and unfortunately too many people are of the mind not to support the artist in the end mostly because there's not as much a loss of quality just keeping mp3s around than a tape recorded from another tape.
Downloading and the internet in general has also contributed to me spending so much more on concerts & merchandise than I ever did before.
Downloading and the internet in general has also contributed to me spending so much more on concerts & merchandise than I ever did before.
So when does it become wrong? When you download the third track? The fourth track? Once you have the whole disc? And why is it wrong if I buy the CD? If I buy the CD in the store blind, there's a period of time between when I've paid for the music and when I've heard it. Is it wrong that the label has been paid and I've yet to hear the music? If not, why is it wrong if I hear the music before paying the label? And what about the fact that the artists don't typically see any money from CD sales until six months after the fact?
Sounds like there's just too much gray area to state that downloading/purchasing is unequivocally wrong.
Zod
You bring up a good point with the cassette stuff. The music industry claims that downloading is costing them money. Compared to what? The way it was before? I don't think so. Back in the old days, everyone was making copies of tapes and giving them to their friends. You could say that the internet makes this much easier, but that's offset by the fact that the internet also makes it easier for bands to reach the public.
rms
Active Member
I'll say it again, i'd rather go to ProgPowerUSA than owning 10-12 albums that I could get anywhere on the internet.
OrbWeaver
BECAUSE FALCONER
On rare occasions I will download an album. If I like it, I buy it. If I don't like it, I delete it.
I downloaded Falconer's Northwind before it was ever released, but I had also pre-ordered it prior to downloading. I downloaded that particular album simply because I couldn't wait. Once my CD came, I deleted the download.
And as other people have pointed out, if not for MP3s, there are alot of bands I'd never have known existed, and thus would have never bought anything by. My CD collection is that much larger because of being exposed to new music.
I downloaded Falconer's Northwind before it was ever released, but I had also pre-ordered it prior to downloading. I downloaded that particular album simply because I couldn't wait. Once my CD came, I deleted the download.
And as other people have pointed out, if not for MP3s, there are alot of bands I'd never have known existed, and thus would have never bought anything by. My CD collection is that much larger because of being exposed to new music.
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