The Halo Effect - Days of the Lost or Dark Tranquillity - Endtime Signals?

[eochaid]

I like STYE. I understand people not liking STYE. But, when someone names STYE as an example of MDM riffing instead of, for example, Whoracle, I don't think that there's going to be a common point that we can share about what melodeath is or is not.

This said, I also fail to see how there's some kind of melodeath riffing template when every melodeath band have had their own style of doing things sharing little to nothing in common with the rest of the bands aside from the melodic side of their music.

And still, it's the first tiem I've ever read someone considering STYE a melodeath album. I'm in shock.

 

[Moonshield_]

I fail to see anything related to melodeath in that album. But naming songs like DA or MSS. WTF?

To be as accurate as possible:

Riff from 0.16s to 0.32s in MSS is exactly what I'm referring to when talking about classic modern melodeath guitar part.

Regarding Dead Alone it's from 0.45s to 0.57s

Those are what I expect from modern melodeath and therefore from THE.

What we've got instead is what I called "indus" Engelin riffs also well depicted by @ThePhobiac as "E-string action nu metal adjacent" kind of riffs in opposition to Jesper's way of playing.

PS: Nothing wrong against Niklas though, his own style gave birth to this amazing Passenger album. Just doesn't fit a band like THE for me.

 

[Moonshield_]

I like STYE. I understand people not liking STYE. But, when someone names STYE as an example of MDM riffing instead of, for example, Whoracle, I don't think that there's going to be a common point that we can share about what melodeath is or is not.

Regarding old-school melodeath, I would have indeed picked albums like Whoracle and everything pre Clayman but the point is to explain why DoTL sounds disappointing from my perspective.

And THE is nothing else than modern melodeath, which is also the case for post Clayman IF albums until ASOP, hence the comparison.

Talking about ASOP, even this one sounds so much richer and interesting than DoTL to me in terms of guitar work.

 

[eochaid]

Riff from 0.16s to 0.32s in MSS is exactly what I'm referring to when talking about classic modern melodeath guitar part.

Regardind Dead Alone it's from 0.45s to 0.57s

Those are what I expect from modern melodeath and therefore from THE.

That's your perception. That doens't mean that modern MDM has to be like that or that THE is not melodeath. After all, melodeath is just a label for bands that do not fit into the death metal label and still could share something in common with death metal. Though I've always seen mdm as some kind of Heavy Metal with steroids.

 

[Moonshield_]

Absolutely, it's highly about perception.

 

[The Grayfox]

It's Days of the Lost for me. I do really like Endtime Signals and I think it's the best DT album in quite some time though. For me, it's not just about the music itself. Endtime Signals is quite dark, which I love. I'm into the darker, melancholic, almost gothic atmosphere for sure. Days of the Lost, however, is pure nostalgia for me.

I have no shame saying that the first time I watched the Shadowminds video, seeing those guys all walk out, I could feel tears welling in my eyes. As a teenager, In Flames' music was very important to me. I was borderline obsessed with the band -- in the way teenagers get obsessed about shit. Even though I had lost interest by the time Peter and Daniel left the band, there was still a level of disappointment, like, 'well, I guess it really is over.' The In Flames that I knew (Jesper, Bjorn, Peter, Daniel, Anders) felt like it would never come back. Granted, it hasn't. But the pure joy I feel seeing Jesper, Mikael, Niclas, Peter and Daniel together is immeasurable and it makes me feel like a kid in some strange way.

It's not all nostalgia for me though. I genuinely think DotL is a great album and I'm looking forward to the next one.