The Halo Effect - New Album 2023/2024

Translations have come a long way as of late. Not sure if Google translate is using Gemini to help now, but ChatGPT is exceptional at translating in both directions. When it can write essentially perfect English to Finnish (verified by actual Finns as totally accurate) you know it's good.

Well, Google translate has been around for so long it has amassed a shit ton of terminology, so I don't think it (they?) needs AI. Not saying it won't be integrated into the service in the future, if it hasn't already been. In a totally non-evil way, of course. I mean, hey, it's Google.
 
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Now... About the album.

I like it. So far, it seems to be more classic melodeath than DOTL.

Talking about DOTL, the differences... How to say this. On DOTL, there were some songs that seemd to stand out more while there were a few songs that were more, errr... uninteresting. I guess that's the word.

In that regards, this album seems to be more balanced. Like... How to say his? I don't feel like there are fillers and I also don't feel that there are songs that are far better or worse than the others. It's pretty solid. The music won't surprise anyone but it's also not intended to surprise anyone. Now, the two songs that caught my attention are Between Directions and A Death that Becomes Us. The first one because of the evident deviation from the overall style of the album. Also, the adittion of violins and cellos really fit well with the song. The second one, maybe, because is the one that has, to me, the smell of old IF melodies. More than any other song on the album. Also, all the transitions fit pretty well there. Then there's Coda that's mostly an acoustic version from MOTU with Michael Oldfield vibes. What can I say? Give me a full album like that and I'm happy. Sorry about that.

So far, a really enjoyable album. I still have the feeling that Stanne has paid the price of overwork, so his melodies are a bit below what he did in DOTL. Still... Great album. If I were to really compare it with DOTL, I would say that my favourite songs from the first one are, in my list, still above any song in the new album but MOTU has this balanced level of quality that the first one is lacking. So, I'm happy wih the final result.
 
Between directions is sooo good. And unlike Forever Astray, clean singing fits awesome here, to me at least.
Main riff of A death that becomes us reminds me of Amorphis, and that is awesome. But, pre chorus riff reminds me of Shadowminds and then the chorus starts with Let us now begin... strange, but I guess Stanne must repeat himself after all those albums in such a short time...
Anyways, I like the album! Gotta give it a few more spins, but so far so good. Good ol' melodeath, nothing groundbreaking here but to be honest, thats what I want from them..
 
I went into the album with not a ton of hype, but I was pleasantly surprised with how much I enjoyed it. Is it quite as adventurous as I’d like overall? Not entirely, but it was definitely a lot moreso than I expected, so I’m happy enough with what we got. I still don’t like how the drumkit sounds, but Svensson’s playing is a lot more varied and simply alive for me, and Iwers’ bass is far more audible here as well. Along with more acoustic guitarwork and clean passages, it’s a big step in the right direction if the guys in THE are as committed as they are to making this more than just a one or two-off side project in the long run. Stanne’s harsh vocals are better overall on the album, and his clean vocals are utilized better here than on DotL, even if it’s in the same amount of songs as on that album. Almost everything here is a step up, though it does feel as ‘constructed’ (I don’t want to say inorganic because that’s not it, but something like Colony felt more natural) as DotL does. It’s definitely making me reconsider if DotL is as good as I originally felt it was, and honestly? I’m very happy with that.

1. Conspire To Deceive- 9.5/10 for me, absolutely love it, super kickass opener that I hope becomes a staple in their setlists
2. Detonate- 6/10, just gonna be real, I haven’t cared much for this one since it came out, and my opinion constantly sinks lower and lower. Good news is that it’s by far the lowest point in the album, and it’s an anomaly in that respect for me. I get why it’s here, it’s their safe lead single, and it at the very least has a faster tempo than you’d expect for that, but Shadowminds clear it any day.
3. Our Channel To The Darkness- 9/10, love this one, feels very much like Conditional, but not in a way where I want to go back and listen to something better. That much a big problem with Detonate, but from the bombastic guitars in the chorus, the acoustic intro, and the smooth bass that comes alive in the song, it very much has enough of its own flavor to separate itself and satisfy me.
4. Cruel Perception- 9/10, huge Endtime Signals feel in the best way possible here. With the consideration that the entire album is more recognizably Niclas’ and Jesper’s work than DotL, it actually feels rather refreshing to have something DT-sounding, especially since we’ve had higher tempo, thrashier tracks before this one. It’s really well-placed in the album, and I love that.
5. What We Become- 8.5/10, genuinely surprised that this is the new single, it’s not what I would’ve picked since it very much just sounds like what you’d expect from THE. That being said, the keyboards are really mesmerizing, there’s a massive thrash feel with the guitars in the hook (This is what I envision with Engelin’s motto, “Obey the riff”, and I’m glad we’re finally getting the real riffs on this album), the chorus works really well, and the solo feels just like classic In Flames. It’s a grower more than anything, and while I would’ve put it at 7.5 last night, it’s already sinking its hooks in me quite nicely.
6. This Curse of Silence- 9.5/10, glad to hear the intro to March’s music video actually made it onto the album. Fucking love it, this was sorely missing from DotL.
7. March of the Unheard- 8.5/10, I didn’t like this too much when it first came out, but it’s also seriously grown on me.
8. Forever Astray- 9/10, love this one too, lots of IF melodies paired with Stanne’s harsh and clean vocals. That’s the general expectation I’d have for the band at the bare minimum, and it does well in that regard.
9. Between Directions- 10/10, easily my favorite song on the album, this is exactly what I want from these guys. Almost black metal style intro with the strings, but with some wonderful crackling bass and syncopated, almost funk-style drumming. It’s so fucking good there, the chorus reminds me of Katatonia at their best, and the solo is peak classic In Flames. Not just my favorite song from the album, but my favorite song from the band in general.
10. A Death That Becomes Us- 8.5/10, absolutely love the southern drawl of the guitarwork and groove feel in the intro and verses, absolutely love how it speeds up in the hook, but I think the chorus drops the ball a bit— Moreso with Stanne giving just a standard chorus that, as mentioned above, is rather close to Shadowminds. The solo is some classic In Flames goodness though, so all of the things I enjoy here brought it from an 8 to an 8.5. Also as mentioned above, it does seem like Stanne’s overworking and repeating himself a bit too much, and this track is one of the more apparent instances of that.
11. The Burning Point- 8.5/10, didn’t like this too much (Probably like 6.5/10) when I first heard it, but it’s another one that’s really growing on me. Mikael’s harsh vocals are a lot better here than on other songs, and along with the guitarwork being so melodic, it thankfully carries what could’ve ended up being your standard filler song.
12. Coda- 10/10, my other favorite on the album. In execution, it’s a beautiful mix of the Acoustic Medley from Black Ash Inheritance and Themes and Variations from Clayman 2020 with how it draws from and seriously expands upon This Curse of Silence, March of the Unheard, and maybe other songs in the album with a little Everlost Pt. 2-style splash of bluesy guitarwork in there for good measure. Along with Between Directions, this is exactly what I wanted from the album.
Overall- 8.83/10 averaged out. Part of me would expect it to be at least a 9/10 (Though not much higher), but it’s another reason why I say that I wonder if I previously overrated DotL. This delivers a lot more of what I want, and I have far fewer hangups here than I do with that album. I’d say Detonate sank it, but The Most Alone seriously sunk DotL for me as well. I went into this with a ton of hesitation, but truthfully the title track grew on me a lot as time went on, and both Cruel Perception and Forever Astray gave me quite a bit of hope for the album. Not to mention, it was really nice that compared to how we got five singles (Counting In Broken Trust on release day) spoiling half the album for DotL, we only got four (Counting What We Become on release day) spoiling a third of March if you don’t count them fucking up with Forever Astray. Both albums definitely held their best cards close to their chest until release, and I’m seriously glad about that, as I’ve been pleasantly surprised both times. Couple that with the tempos actually being more varied this time (112 for Detonate, 140 for the title track, 174 for Conspire to Deceive, etc.), it really feels like the band didn’t just tread old ground structurally like on DotL. I think for all of those reasons, March of the Unheard is absolutely a triumph for the guys, and it’s (in my opinion) a pretty big step up from DotL in so many ways. I expect my scores and overall feelings on most of these songs to only get better with time, and I can’t wait to be able to actually purchase the album.
 
I wasn't expecting much of it since DoTL was rather disapointing to me (except for Conditional and Gateways who are absolutely great).

But this, wow! So catchy, epic and moving.

The Burning Point almost made me cry from nostalgia because of the lead melody... These guitar harmonies are all I ever desire from THE.

They even brought more brutality to their sound with some tchouka tchouka melodeath style drums allied with fast paced riffs.

Acoustic guitars are also beautiful.

Guys, this album is prodigious, This Curse of Silence is an epic as fuck intro to an ultra catchy song that is March of the Unheard.

Forever Astray is genius and so is the clean singing chorus, Detonate is amazing thanks to the greatness lead guitars, Conspire to Deceive is glorious...

I feel like they heard my wishes and decided to go with an album full of Conditional style songs o_O

What a fucking good surprise.
 
Even the more indus style songs such as What We Become, A Death that Become Us & Between Directions pleased me this time while I couldn't stand Shadowminds for example.
 
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I'll maybe give fuller thoughts later, but my first impressions are that even its non-standout tracks are enjoyable cuts of authentic Gothenburg melodic death metal, and its highs are up there with the best of the genre. I think Days of the Lost might be a more consistent record, but the best tracks on March of the Unheard are beautiful and I like that they've tried some new things here to stave off the risk of it getting too samey (there's nothing wrong with having a signature sound as long as you find ways to innovate within that bracket, hence never getting bored by TJR/Whoracle/Colony/Clayman). The Burning Point is the apex of the record for me, those guitars have me feeling some kind of way, but I've also really been digging Our Channel to the Darkness, Forever Astray and A Death that Becomes Us.
 
I can only echo most of what has already been said here - really amazing album. THE have delivered again. Second album is always a difficult one, but they didn't let us down. Or at least, I can say that I definitely don't feel let down.

I really love Stanne's vocals on this album, again. It;s funny because pre-THE I thought Stanne was done as a genuinely great MDM vocalist. He was functional enough with DT and still did a decent job, but it had been a long time since I had listened to a performance from him and considered it outstanding. Then THE comes along and wow, he's sounding as good as he was in the mid-2000s. Once again on this album his delivery blows me away at times, particularly on songs like The Burning Point and Our Channel to the Darkness, but really there isn't a single time on the album where, to me, he sounds weak or boring. It's strange because with DT I don't feel much his changed in regards to his vocals, so maybe it's a production thing between the bands, or just the music itself, but he sounds revitalised and invigorated every time I hear him on a THE track.

Of course the music itself is great. It's a bit of a shame there's not a Gateways-style track on here, but nonetheless almost every song on the album is a solid slice of traditional Swedish MDM. The melodies, the groove and the heaviness are all there and mixing together in a way only these guys can do. Probably my favourites of the tracks I hadn;t heard so far are Between Directions, A Death That Becomes Us and The Burning Point, but I like all of them. Coda as an outro is absolutely beautiful and transports me right back to mid-90s IF, but with a bit more polish and style.

The only song on the album that I'd say comes close to being a filler is What We Become. It isn't a filler, - it's a good track - but I feel like it's kinda straightforward and basic compared to everything else on the album. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's the only song where I waited for a peak of sorts either instrumentally or vocally, and it never really came.

I think it would be difficult for any follow up, no matter how good, to beat DOTL for me. I loved that album and still love it. MOTU comes damn close though, and is as good of a sequel as I could have realistically hoped for. If DOTL is a 9.5/10 to me, then MOTU is a 9/10. Both top tier MDM albums, and I remain grateful that these group of musicians have come together to give us some genuinely new fragments of a section of the genre that is otherwise lost to time. Even if they disbanded tomorrow, what they've given us on these last two albums is more than enough - although of course I hope we get at least one more album, if not more, but a lot will depend on how Mikael's vocals hold up with the guy now entering his 50s and not slowing down at all. If anything he's busier now than he ever has been in terms of projects.
 
I can only echo most of what has already been said here - really amazing album. THE have delivered again. Second album is always a difficult one, but they didn't let us down. Or at least, I can say that I definitely don't feel let down.

I really love Stanne's vocals on this album, again. It;s funny because pre-THE I thought Stanne was done as a genuinely great MDM vocalist. He was functional enough with DT and still did a decent job, but it had been a long time since I had listened to a performance from him and considered it outstanding. Then THE comes along and wow, he's sounding as good as he was in the mid-2000s. Once again on this album his delivery blows me away at times, particularly on songs like The Burning Point and Our Channel to the Darkness, but really there isn't a single time on the album where, to me, he sounds weak or boring. It's strange because with DT I don't feel much his changed in regards to his vocals, so maybe it's a production thing between the bands, or just the music itself, but he sounds revitalised and invigorated every time I hear him on a THE track.

Of course the music itself is great. It's a bit of a shame there's not a Gateways-style track on here, but nonetheless almost every song on the album is a solid slice of traditional Swedish MDM. The melodies, the groove and the heaviness are all there and mixing together in a way only these guys can do. Probably my favourites of the tracks I hadn;t heard so far are Between Directions, A Death That Becomes Us and The Burning Point, but I like all of them. Coda as an outro is absolutely beautiful and transports me right back to mid-90s IF, but with a bit more polish and style.

The only song on the album that I'd say comes close to being a filler is What We Become. It isn't a filler, - it's a good track - but I feel like it's kinda straightforward and basic compared to everything else on the album. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's the only song where I waited for a peak of sorts either instrumentally or vocally, and it never really came.

I think it would be difficult for any follow up, no matter how good, to beat DOTL for me. I loved that album and still love it. MOTU comes damn close though, and is as good of a sequel as I could have realistically hoped for. If DOTL is a 9.5/10 to me, then MOTU is a 9/10. Both top tier MDM albums, and I remain grateful that these group of musicians have come together to give us some genuinely new fragments of a section of the genre that is otherwise lost to time. Even if they disbanded tomorrow, what they've given us on these last two albums is more than enough - although of course I hope we get at least one more album, if not more, but a lot will depend on how Mikael's vocals hold up with the guy now entering his 50s and not slowing down at all. If anything he's busier now than he ever has been in terms of projects.

Don't you love the electronic feeling during What We Become? It's enough for me to never call the song a filler (even if I'm not a fan of the versus riffing because it's representative of this indus dimension I don't like about THE) :kickass:

Otherwise, I can't help but thinking about how it would be cool if the album benefited from the same sound production as the last DT.

It's totally fine here (and a slightly improvement from the debut album) but it's still not as great as it could be IMO.
 
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What We Become is a solid track, I just didn't find it as cool as the others.

Personally I don't find issue with the production, but typically I'm not picky about this unless it's really obviously shit and detrimental to the music (eg. Siren Charms, Battles, new Disarmonia Mundi). I don't think DT production does Mikael's harsh vocals any favours, although it suits his cleans better. Musically DT and THE are really different despite technically both being MDM, so difficult to compare them.

Also imo MOTU blows Foregone out of the water. Not even a contest to me, especially if you class both as MDM. Personally I think at least half of Foregone is not MDM, just the usual shitty IF/Benson alt metal, but since Foregone is often eulogised as the great return of IF to the roots, it's arguably fair to compare.
 
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Also imo MOTU blows Foregone out of the water. Not even a contest to me, especially if you class both as MDM. Personally I think at least half of Foregone is not MDM, just the usual shitty IF/Benson alt metal, but since Foregone is often eulogised as the great return of IF to the roots, it's arguably fair to compare.

With Endtime Signals’ release, then now March’s release, Foregone just feels more and more… Not so much pointless, but in a way disproven in my mind. The points you said here are exactly what I’ve felt since SOSD came out (Mind you, I do still like the track, but we’re calling a spade a spade here). Foregone is “MDM” for modern core audiences who just want in on the hype, who want to be excited for them going back to the roots without ever understanding those roots. So many new fans want to feel like something like Meet Your Maker is comparable to Pinball Map, when in actuality it shares far more similarities The End. I guess that being said, ironically enough, from what I’ve seen, Foregone is an album that satisfied more of the people who used to hate IF than its longtime, classic fans (And me, can’t say 8 years makes me a longtime fan compared to you guys). It’s their first album to have over 60% since ASoP on Metallum (Not counting Down, Wicked, & No Good), which is nothing short of a fucking miracle for that site.

I don’t think March is perfect stylistically— I can even admit that it doesn’t have as much bite as Foregone. If there’s one thing Foregone has over it, it’s heaviness (Which is incredible for a modern core album since I think heaviness is often misattributed to them). That being said, just like with No Halos getting ‘heavier’ than Letters, I find that the tradeoff of sacrificing the last few things that made the previous efforts special massively let Foregone down, and that only becomes more and more apparent with time and with incredible MDM albums. Endtime Signals obviously isn’t perfect either, but I still love it too. I remember seeing a comment on March where one guy said that we’re living in the golden age of melodeath, which… No, that’s long come and gone, but it’s certainly a lot better than it’s been in a very long time. To me, Endtime Signals and March prove that even early-mid 2000s melodeath is still alive and kicking, which is something I didn’t exactly have much hope in. I’m just hoping that mainstream audiences get off the modern core bullshit and listen to some genuinely creative, adventurous, and quality musicianship— Or hell, something with actual guitar melodies.
 
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As some review said, I cannot remember which one, this revival of Melodeath comes at the hands of the people who started it. And that is a bit discouraging. Once these guys stop making music there will be no revival or melodeath anymore.

Foregone doesn't sound really melodeath to me. A few songs there are but the rest is the same garbage that they did before with Benson. I would even call it fake melodeath. Because it sounds more like people trying to be melodeath on purpose than people naturally making melodeath. If that makes sense.
 
As some review said, I cannot remember which one, this revival of Melodeath comes at the hands of the people who started it. And that is a bit discouraging. Once these guys stop making music there will be no revival or melodeath anymore.

Foregone doesn't sound really melodeath to me. A few songs there are but the rest is the same garbage that they did before with Benson. I would even call it fake melodeath. Because it sounds more like people trying to be melodeath on purpose than people naturally making melodeath. If that makes sense.
I can’t help but completely agree with both parts there. The closest thing we’ve really gotten to a revival of old melodeath is second wave/melodic metalcore, and that’s suffering the same exact fate as melodeath. In a way, I think your take on Foregone being fake melodic death metal is exactly why classic mdm might just never come back— Those of us who would want to make it would be purposefully trying to do so, just retreading that old ground without establishing one’s own identity, style, or additions in the process, rather than organically creating it like we’d want. I don’t think it’s impossible, but it’d take someone both setting aside bias and desire, and being creative enough to actually achieve it. I don’t think In Flames could ever do either one, and honestly, I don’t think the guys in THE could either. At least they recognized as much and decided to go for the next best thing. I had a lot more respect for Anders and Björn when they stuck to their guns and said “we don’t want to make TJR2, we don’t want to even try to make it, you’re never getting it” because at least they were honest about it back then.
 
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When I listened to Foregone, just once before deleting it and forgetting about it's existance, instead of listening to an IF album, I felt like I was listening to some generic American band trying to mimic old melodeath. I just couldn't hear any trademark, any signature sound to what the band is.

It is ok to experiment a bit, make some different albums, be out of your zone of comfort but, in the end, following Clayman, there's no signature sound for the band. They just put out album after album with a random sound instead of consistent sound. Still, I feel like SC is a far more honest album that Foregone is. I cannot understand why any old school fan would think of Foregone as a back to the roots. All that I can remember about the album is them copypasting melodies from At The Gates and Dimension Zero and then loys of autotunes. And I really forgot when was the last time that Melodeath was about autotunes.
 
When I listened to Foregone, just once before deleting it and forgetting about it's existance, instead of listening to an IF album, I felt like I was listening to some generic American band trying to mimic old melodeath. I just couldn't hear any trademark, any signature sound to what the band is.

It is ok to experiment a bit, make some different albums, be out of your zone of comfort but, in the end, following Clayman, there's no signature sound for the band. They just put out album after album with a random sound instead of consistent sound.

I would love to try to make the argument that it was melodic metalcore (Secondwave and eventually MySpace metalcore, which hey, they put Abnegation’s demo on MySpace), but each album from 2002-2008 is so different within the realm of that subgenre that I’m not entirely sure my argument holds up. STYE definitely fucks things up there, that one’s something else.

Still, I feel like SC is a far more honest album that Foregone is.

Yeah. Foregone’s really helped me to appreciate SC, to the point where I actually enjoy it as an alt rock/hard rock/slightly core album. It’s not the In Flames I’d want, it’s not even an In Flames I’d say is particularly good, but it’s more actual In Flames that I can actually enjoy these days. Dead Eyes still sucks though, save for that good minute of it.

I cannot understand why any old school fan would think of Foregone as a back to the roots. All that I can remember about the album is them copypasting melodies from At The Gates and Dimension Zero and then loys of autotunes. And I really forgot when was the last time that Melodeath was about autotunes.

I fucking wish I heard Dimension Zero in Foregone, it would’ve been a lot better if they tried ripping them off. I’d love to say that Benson is a goddamn scourge for the band (And he is), but when one of the two songs that hold up the best for me is Pure Light of Mind, I just don’t fucking know anymore. I don’t think Anders knows anymore. Björn certainly doesn’t know anymore. Björn saying he doesn’t listen to new music and doesn’t care what’s going on there 1. Feels more and more false given how Foregone ended up more modern core than ever, and 2. Reminds me of how Bill Kelliher from Mastodon listened to the new Turnstile album (Which didn’t grip me, but hey) and got inspired for the next Mastodon album (Whenever that’ll actually be) to make it harder edge, faster, and just higher energy. That’s something that excites me because it probably got the creative gears going. Maybe it won’t be something I end up liking, but I fucking hated Mastodon’s last album, and Stanne called that the definitive album of the pandemic. No idea why pretty much everyone else loved it so much, that shit was just completely boring and dragged out.
 
I fucking wish I heard Dimension Zero in Foregone,
Well. Listen to State of Slow Decay and then listen to Until You Die. You'll find out that there are some kind coincidences in some of Anders's lines and the bridge from the DZ sound. Which is funny because the album was produced by the same Anders. And, maybe is just me, the whole guitar melodies from that song sound like a mix from ATG and DM. But, maybe that is just me.
 
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