the new issue of adbusters is really good

[minxnim]

have any of you seen it. it got me all fired up last night.
anyway, i wish i could afford a subscription to that damn thing.

 

[tar]

at face value this statement would appear to be an oxymoron

 

[avi]

that mag is always worth a peep, though I rarely shell out the cash to buy it

 

[xfer]

is it the one with Look Left and Look Right on the cover? i have it in my bag right now....i was gonna scan some of the skater-blocking devices at lunch.

 

[minxnim]

yea it's the look left look right one! it's really good.

yea oxymoron bleh. i suck today. ! why? dunno.

 

[goatschool]

okay, it is time for me to ask.

someone explain to me the adbusters hate.

i've read the mag, but sort of stopped a year ago because my friend/ex-co-worker hyped it too much. but i recall thinking it was not so bad.

but i need to be filled in on why some people hate it so much. i honestly would like to know.

thnx.

 

[xfer]

i haven't read the articles, and the ones i've glanced at seem a mixture of good and stupid, so it could be that. BUT its full of really good images, which is why i like it.

 

[azal]

they only reason I clicked on this is because I thought it said assbusters, and I was intrigued since I am looking for a new anal oriented stroke mag to moisten my lonely nights.

 

[minxnim]

i dont see why people would be adamant about HATING adbusters. i mean, like all things, you aren't going to agree with everything in it. some of the things are silly, and sort of like, 'well, duh' but yea. i was mostly talking about the images w/captions etc. AND the poem in there (not the charles bukowski one, the other one) is so beautiful.

 

[avi]

the articles aren't always super-hot (preaching to the choir, somewhat uninformed lefty stuff sometimes), but the pics definitely can't be beat. I read it for the design/art, not necessarily the politics.

 

[goatschool]

see, i always thought adbusters aimed to "enlighten" otherwise stodgy designers, but that's kind of stupid of me, because the stodgy designer demographic is so small at this point due to attrition or whatnot that there's no way you can overlook the fact that it is essentially preachy and stupid at times.

point(s) noted.

emigre is worse, though.

 

[avi]

zander is lurking this thread - can he hold out?

 

[tar]

i hated adbusters for a long time because it was the most content devoid magazine i had ever read. i don't really need to state at magazine advertisements that mock the inanity of magazine advertisements. essentially i thought that adbusters was as flawed as the issues it mocked for the same reasons. the slogans and general attitude of the magazine urged a superficial, polemic "that is bad" attitude--and offering no real or incisive critique, just as the culture it mocked pushed a similarly superficial "this is good" attitude. i dunno. it soured me. i heard they have been improving the content in the last couple of years though.

 

[minxnim]

i like the picture with the poem in the sink.

 

[tar]

hee it took me a long time to write that, and in the meantime everyone else responded.

 

[xfer]

If you are bored when alone, it is your own fault.

 

[xfer]

I like the wristwatch-looking thing with nothing but a single functionless button on it. i want one.

(i hate watches)

 

[minxnim]

yea that thing is neat.

 

[goatschool]

tar, i see your point. i do agree, having read similar stuff in zines since the 80's, repackaged, if you will, endlessly.

buttttt i also keep thinking about the scads of little kids with macs who need to read this stuff, because their parents haven't quite caught up. or all of the people in iowa.

adbusters should totally be co-op'd to the kid section of book stores.

 

[avi]

nick - that's what I was trying to tell zander about his critcism. it may be lacking overall, but it's better than nothing.