The Truth about Rick Rubin
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DeclanWhite
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has rubin even produced a good record in 10 years? i mean sure he is prolific by doing everyone from slayer to jay z to the jayhawks, but its almost like he produces stuff that is already popular.
MG-Chris
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A lot of the internet "mastering" sites certainly know who he is though, and (imo) take advantage of bands who don't know better using "the RR Method".
A large majority of them just brickwall the shit out of it and send it back, and bands who don't know better hear the difference and say "Oh shit, it's so loud now! Thanks, here's a grand!". When in reality, their track was dropped into some Ozone preset and that's it.
If I pay someone to engineer my album, I expect them to listen to it - not show up 45 minutes in and toss me some canned advice.
Ermz
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In any other real-world scenario that would translate to willful ignorance and lazyness. You can't offer nothing at all and then call yourself a 'producer'. The band can just show the record to family and friends if they want layperson opinions. Of course anybody who is handed legions of pre-successful artists to work with is going to have a stellar track record. I'm sure Greg Fidelman has an excellent credits list too.
So, let's recap. The sound of the albums he works on is frequently quite poor sounding. His involvement by no means guarantees a great record. The involvement itself is extremely minimal, many tasks are delegated to an assistant, and the band are left to do the grunt work themselves. How is this different to working without any producer in the first place?
I'd really love to know the secret here. Convincing my clients that I'm worth a 6-figure salary, then only showing up for a few minutes per week to take a dump on them sounds like a fantastic retirement plan. The self-indulgence of the whole thing would fuel my narcissism well into the afterlife too.
Here's a conspiratory strategy that explains Rubin's employment: beyond a certain level, the label forces the band to have a "name" producer. Some of those bands like to produce themselves or don't like to have someone fuck with their work. In comes Rick Rubin - you tell the label you want Rick, he only comes an hour per week in the studio and doesn't really care what u're up to, cause you're a famous band anyway since you had the budget to hire him in the first place. At the end of the day, the record is done, the band is happy, the budget is spent, the sales will be high because of the already established brand name, everyone earns their big dollars and no one gets hurt (except the listeners' ears, that is). 
amarshism
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Oh boy, another one of those threads where you get a big reply all typed out, then just ask yourself "Why bother?".
May as well just sum it up with this : Rick Rubin lol
May as well just sum it up with this : Rick Rubin lol
egan.
daylightdies.com
I always thought of him more as a great A+R guy than anything else. What he did for the first twenty years was find revolutionary acts, sign them and make them world famous.
Melb_shredder
Orpheus: Melodic Death
Rick Rollbin??? Seriously... after seeing the Metallica vids with him, I already came to Corey's conclusion. I really don't see where the benefit is having him there at all...
Vinny
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Am I the only one who digs that Slipknot album? Not necessarily mix-wise (I do agree it is very thin), but it just sounds so pissed off
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
course not, but you can blame for charging 250 grand for doing nothing. Which, in the end, is what we all would love to do anyways
Brett - K A L I S I A
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Indeed...course not, but you can blame for charging 250 grand for doing nothing. Which, in the end, is what we all would love to do anyways
Now that is exactly the kind of job I want. Rick should write a fucking instruction manual, I'd buy that (cause there's no way in hell there's gonna be enough material for a book)
GeertSamuel
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Here's a conspiratory strategy that explains Rubin's employment: beyond a certain level, the label forces the band to have a "name" producer. Some of those bands like to produce themselves or don't like to have someone fuck with their work. In comes Rick Rubin - you tell the label you want Rick, he only comes an hour per week in the studio and doesn't really care what u're up to, cause you're a famous band anyway since you had the budget to hire him in the first place. At the end of the day, the record is done, the band is happy, the budget is spent, the sales will be high because of the already established brand name, everyone earns their big dollars and no one gets hurt (except the listeners' ears, that is).
You're probably not far off with that, dude!
GeertSamuel
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Here's a conspiratory strategy that explains Rubin's employment: beyond a certain level, the label forces the band to have a "name" producer. Some of those bands like to produce themselves or don't like to have someone fuck with their work. In comes Rick Rubin - you tell the label you want Rick, he only comes an hour per week in the studio and doesn't really care what u're up to, cause you're a famous band anyway since you had the budget to hire him in the first place. At the end of the day, the record is done, the band is happy, the budget is spent, the sales will be high because of the already established brand name, everyone earns their big dollars and no one gets hurt (except the listeners' ears, that is).
If Corey Taylor has these words about Rick Rubin it means he's not in the category that you're trying to make your point about. Tho I think this is something not far from the truth for other bands.
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