The whole new TEXTURES album on their myspace NOW !!!!
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MetalWorks
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For some reason I can handle 100 metalcore bands or Nu-Metal bands sounding the same.
I just can't handle Textures and Meshuggah sounding so much alike.
I personally am to exposed to Meshuggah to where Textures doesn't impress me and sounds more copied.
The 2 bands should have a death match.
I just can't handle Textures and Meshuggah sounding so much alike.
I personally am to exposed to Meshuggah to where Textures doesn't impress me and sounds more copied.
The 2 bands should have a death match.
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
This. Is. The. Best. Album. Ever. 
notworthy
If you honestly believe these statements, you really haven't listened to either band.
notworthyIf you honestly believe these statements, you really haven't listened to either band.
Brutal Tones
abyssofdreams
knows what you think.
PhilR
Studio Scapegoat
Awright. I really just don't get what the deal is with Textures. They don't seem to so much as "wear their influences on their sleeve" as much as "riffle through their CD collections, looking for cool stuff to copy". All their songs seem to be a pastiche of blatant plagiarisms, pasted together with little regard for continuity.
The last album I seriously listened to could pretty much be broken up into "Meshuggah bit", "The Haunted bit", etc... On THIS album they seem to be sticking with "Pantera bit", "Meshuggah bit", "Lamb Of God bit", "Devin Townsend bit" and so on....
The last album I seriously listened to could pretty much be broken up into "Meshuggah bit", "The Haunted bit", etc... On THIS album they seem to be sticking with "Pantera bit", "Meshuggah bit", "Lamb Of God bit", "Devin Townsend bit" and so on....
This album is amazing. I'm seriously impressed by these guys.
Metalworks: Obviously you've never actually listened to either band because they sound nothing alike, especially on this album. Metalcore, Nu-Metal? <---What the fuck are you talking about here?
PhilR: I'm glad you listed some of the most influential bands ever for this genre. But this album dosen't sound anything like them. But, even if it did manage to sound like all of them at once, that would be fucking amazing and still original enough for me.
Metalworks: Obviously you've never actually listened to either band because they sound nothing alike, especially on this album. Metalcore, Nu-Metal? <---What the fuck are you talking about here?
PhilR: I'm glad you listed some of the most influential bands ever for this genre. But this album dosen't sound anything like them. But, even if it did manage to sound like all of them at once, that would be fucking amazing and still original enough for me.
MetalWorks
Member
Maybe saying that they sound alike was misleading when trying to get my point across.
The problem I have is that my brain is telling me that Textures is trying to be what Meshuggah is in the musical formula sense. And thats what bothers me.
I cant listen to all the start, stop, chugga chug odd guitar riffs coming from any other band.
To me its too signature. Just like there can only be one Soulfly.
As far as the Metalcore/Nu Metal reference, I am simply saying that Metalcore and Nu Metal bands that all sound the same dont bother me because its so much more generic and forgetable. Textures makes me think they are 100% trying to be another Meshuggah band.
And I can't personally get into another band like that when they sound so basic compared to Meshuggah.
I watched a video or listened to a song by Textures that reminded me of The Vocals and sound of Rational Gaze.
When you Google Textures, you find nothing about the band.
Google "Textures Meshuggah" you will get many returns especially like this:
Last.fm:
"Meshuggah is widely acknowledged as an influence on many modern metal bands from Textures to Tool. They are regarded as pioneers by critics and musicians alike."
Or from Wikipedia:
Textures is a metal band from the Netherlands, formed in 2001. They have released two albums to date. The band plays a complex metal style, closely linked with technical metal (and bands like Meshuggah).
Or their own Pure Volume site:
The result of these considerable efforts was TEXTURES ' 2003 debut Polars' , an album practically overspilling with ideas, the Dutch sextet merging the polyrhythmic attack of Meshuggah with Devin Townsend influenced soaring melody and stacks of imagination to epic effect.
Apprently Textures agrees with me that they sound like Meshuggah.
How far off does that make me sound based on that?
Im not saying they suck, because they don't.
So no need for anyone to get butt hurt about my opinion on not being able to get into a band that follows too closely to the path of another band from my own perspective .
The problem I have is that my brain is telling me that Textures is trying to be what Meshuggah is in the musical formula sense. And thats what bothers me.
I cant listen to all the start, stop, chugga chug odd guitar riffs coming from any other band.
To me its too signature. Just like there can only be one Soulfly.
As far as the Metalcore/Nu Metal reference, I am simply saying that Metalcore and Nu Metal bands that all sound the same dont bother me because its so much more generic and forgetable. Textures makes me think they are 100% trying to be another Meshuggah band.
And I can't personally get into another band like that when they sound so basic compared to Meshuggah.
I watched a video or listened to a song by Textures that reminded me of The Vocals and sound of Rational Gaze.
When you Google Textures, you find nothing about the band.
Google "Textures Meshuggah" you will get many returns especially like this:
Last.fm:
"Meshuggah is widely acknowledged as an influence on many modern metal bands from Textures to Tool. They are regarded as pioneers by critics and musicians alike."
Or from Wikipedia:
Textures is a metal band from the Netherlands, formed in 2001. They have released two albums to date. The band plays a complex metal style, closely linked with technical metal (and bands like Meshuggah).
Or their own Pure Volume site:
The result of these considerable efforts was TEXTURES ' 2003 debut Polars' , an album practically overspilling with ideas, the Dutch sextet merging the polyrhythmic attack of Meshuggah with Devin Townsend influenced soaring melody and stacks of imagination to epic effect.
Apprently Textures agrees with me that they sound like Meshuggah.
How far off does that make me sound based on that?
Im not saying they suck, because they don't.
So no need for anyone to get butt hurt about my opinion on not being able to get into a band that follows too closely to the path of another band from my own perspective .
MetalWorks
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MetalWorks
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Kazrog
Kazrog, Inc.
Meshuggah? Sure I can hear the influence in the riffs - but come on guys - Textures has SO much more going on musically than Meshuggah. When I describe Textures to newcomers I say they're like Meshuggah meets Jeff Buckley meets pre-sellout Incubus, but I don't think that fully does them justice either.
I think they're an incredible band. My only criticism, if I have one, and maybe it makes me old school, but I wouldn't mind hearing them do a song or two that had something resembling a more traditional verse/chorus structure. They don't repeat the really awesome sections enough, if they ever repeat any sections at all! It does make me listen to their CDs a lot more often though - so perhaps they're on to something with their goofy linear structures...
These guys have so much more MELODY in their music than Meshuggah. Shit, Meshuggah has virtually NO melody whatsoever, so that isn't even doing Textures justice. I'd say they are one of the most melodic bands in the metal genre that you'll ever find, as well as one of the most brutal and technical.
I think they're an incredible band. My only criticism, if I have one, and maybe it makes me old school, but I wouldn't mind hearing them do a song or two that had something resembling a more traditional verse/chorus structure. They don't repeat the really awesome sections enough, if they ever repeat any sections at all! It does make me listen to their CDs a lot more often though - so perhaps they're on to something with their goofy linear structures...
These guys have so much more MELODY in their music than Meshuggah. Shit, Meshuggah has virtually NO melody whatsoever, so that isn't even doing Textures justice. I'd say they are one of the most melodic bands in the metal genre that you'll ever find, as well as one of the most brutal and technical.
Metalworks, based on your comments, I still think you've only read shit on the internet about them and never listened to them.
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
Exactly. I've always described them as Meshuggah meets Devin Townsend.
And you're beyond right with the 2nd point - don't get me wrong; Meshuggah is one of my favorite bands. They're definitely one of the most influential and original bands, but they're FAR from musical.
Gnash
Lefty
Yeah, this band has enough good riffs to get me past the Meshuggah influence. I always want to hear more of this "style" anyway.
MetalWorks
Member
I have listened to them.
And I think they are good. I like the different things they do as a band.
Its just that ONE thing they do that I dont like...
I watched this very video for Millstone and that will sum up what I mean.
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I hear elements of The whole Neurotica/Destroy Erase Improve vibe hear and there.
Obviously the newer stuff sounds different, more diverse.
I dont mind when a band like Darkane or Mnemic jumps into a little Meshuggah jam for 30 seconds.....
And I think they are good. I like the different things they do as a band.
Its just that ONE thing they do that I dont like...
I watched this very video for Millstone and that will sum up what I mean.
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I hear elements of The whole Neurotica/Destroy Erase Improve vibe hear and there.
Obviously the newer stuff sounds different, more diverse.
I dont mind when a band like Darkane or Mnemic jumps into a little Meshuggah jam for 30 seconds.....
Ermz
¯\(°_o)/¯
Those cock-gurgling hardcore vocals ruin it for me. I can't listen to it due to that alone, much as with Ion Dissonance. It's a shame as both bands seem to have some amazing music going on.
DivisionByZero
Gold Member
I totally agree with you!
I listen to a lot of death/black/core-ish stuff, so I'm pretty used to extreme vocals, but those are just embarrassing. I can't feel any aggression/desperation/whatever in it, it just sounds like a horny moose. Pure caveman's roar :zombie:
Too bad, because their songs seem to be really interesting, I just can't listen to it with those kind of vocals (realizing that I sound like my own parents
)
