theboogiearchives.com

put this in your browser, followed by the boogie archives address

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:Ip83HzVxaigJ:

Bingo! google's cached version of the page. Links wont work, you'll need to copy and past the link address and use the method detailed above.

Make sure to save the webpages somewhere though as i don't think google keeps dead pages forever

edit: no pictures i'm afraid, but the text is all still there i think

edit no.2: doesn't look like i understand this fully. It seems that ip address is specific to the boogie archives site or something, or maybe it's the code after it. Either way unless you type a valid part of the boogiearchives site, it takes you to the boogiearchives homepage
 
Majority of this page is coming from :
http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11228&start=0&hilit=rectifier+lineage

Plus a picture to illustrate :

IMG_4731.jpg

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(mine -Rev-D - is the lower)

If you have questions don't hesitate to ask, I have A Rev-D (bought new in 94') and a Rev-G since this year. About tone and built.

In addition, there is a lot more 2 channel than the Pre500 which have Schumacher trans.

And a reamp to the tone of a Rev-D :

http://oxyde.clan.free.fr/ROS.mp3
only the guitars tracked :

http://oxyde.clan.free.fr/ROS_GT.mp3
 
btw, there's no strict rule about those output Ω as well, I've got a RevF (around 1600) with the 16/8/4/4 config, all other things (logo, loop, cable etc) are typical RevF
 
btw, there's no strict rule about those output Ω as well, I've got a RevF (around 1600) with the 16/8/4/4 config, all other things (logo, loop, cable etc) are typical RevF

In my opinion, I think there is a rule, but as I have no Rev-C;E and F on the hand, it's difficult to have informations.

And I have never seen a transitionnal model like that.

Elpelotero (the original owner of theboogiearchives.com) has not answered to me about it because I think that only Rev-c and D have 16/8 - 16/8 - 4 - 4 but I'm not sure.

I think on motherboard there is a rule and other equipement like trans, pots and so on was mounted "on the fly".

For exemple, a lot of persons believes that only Pre500 have Schumacher and know I can say : no. But there is no rules about Recto mounted with Schumacher.
And a lot of person believes the Diamond black plate was a special request.

I You would like to send me a pics with your Rev-F in high rez it would be nice.
I would have a pics of a Rev-C and E soon.

Thanks
 
In addition, my Rev-D was originally wired for 220V.
In fact now, in France, we have got 240V from the wall plug.

Now hotter current in the tube is higher than it should be. I have discuss about it with a "tube specialized parano doctor tech". He says that's a bd point and I need to rewire it for 240V because the sound is not the same than 220V. It's true we tried it, the is a difference. Most important problem is a stronger tube is needed.

I will ask to Mesa about it, but I'm sure they will answer there is no problem from their point of view.
It's a good thing to know because in many case it should explain the Vactec fault.
 
Yeah, I can send you pics.
My revF is chrome chassis, black treadplate, built early '93 serial nr 16xx small logo, attached powercord 16/8/4/4 outputs, Schumacher trannies. My revG is serial 25xx, attached cord, big logo, Schumacher trannies and also 16/8/4/4 output config.
I also own a revG rackmount, but that one had the trannies changed to mercur mags.
Here are some comparison clips if you're interested:

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...r-vs-revg-schumacher-vs-revg-mercury-mag.html
 
I'm not really surprised with you tone comparaison.

But In addition, (I don't know if you use the rectifier tube) Dual recto's owner should try GZ34.

Your samples allow to hear the difference between G and F, but I'm sure that when You are playing with these in front of You, You hear a real big difference. According to this, If you swap 5U4 with GZ34 (JJ are stronger), you will hear a real big difference too.
More dynamics, more power (increase 1.5dB RMS with all pots at 12 O'clock). It's a real difference for 30eur.
All people who tryed these tubes have never played with silicons or 5U4.
This is a real improvement for this amp which worth it.

my mail is on the bottom ot his page :
http://oxyde.clan.free.fr/dualrectifier.htm
 
So Have you noticed a good improvement ?

How do you choose your tube with the fixed BIAS ?
Have you done a BIAS mod ?

yeah, when playing loud (master above 8:45/9:00) I still prefer silicon recs, but the tube rectifications sounds much punchier and tighter with the GZ34...
I did a comparison here btw:


http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...fier-tubes-test-5u4gb-vs-gz34-vs-silicon.html

I have one of my recs bias modded (the RevF), running at 50% plate dissipation.
for the other recs I get selected tubes from tube-town.de
 
Yes I done this comparaison before, but all pots @ 12 O'clock.
The difference is most important with my amp, I think it depends of preamps and power tubes.
As I have choose the most tighter sound, GZ34/silicon comparaison is really like night and day.

Difference was the better with KT77. In my opinion, with 6L6 the Presence pots is used to dial with Highs (fizz), but with KT77, Presence is used to add or remove "air".

I have already reamp these DI's :
http://oxyde.clan.free.fr/ROS_GT.mp3
In context :
http://oxyde.clan.free.fr/ROS.mp3
 
Don´t want to start a new topic and you´re talking about tubes so...... here´s my question:

I want to get new tubes for my RevG. Any suggestions for poweramp and preamp tubes? I think i´m gonna put in some SED 6l6 into the powersection..... but which kind of tubes for the preamp?

Regards