There is a God... Creed Splits up
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Doodoobubbachuck
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I read the other band members immediately announced that they formed a new band without the singer and their record is due out in August. Hey don't waste any time, guys, hehehe...Doodoobubbachuck said:
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I am suprised they lasted as long as they did. You can only have so many money grubbing, non-profit sharing people in one band without problems. Actually, all you need is one.....
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Myles Kennedy is listed as the singer for the new band. He is a Spokane boy and is known to the rest of the world as the guy who replaces Wahlberg in the movie Rock Star and, yes, he actually sings, his own parts in the movie. It will be very intersting to hear what they come up with. Myles is an awesome singer and great guitar player. I bet it will be a lot less whimpy that Creed.
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The article I read said they were going for a harder edge. Guess I'll have to rent Rock Star so I can check out his voice.alanbirdsell said:
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Creed - the Ultimate Tribute to Pearl Jam...only the record company refused to market the band that way, for some reason.
I'm glad they're gone. Good riddance! Now, hopefully, we can do the same thing to Evanescence.
Just online for today. I'm house sitting for a friend. Someone has to mind the cat. Back in August, around the 28th. School starts then.
I'm glad they're gone. Good riddance! Now, hopefully, we can do the same thing to Evanescence.
Just online for today. I'm house sitting for a friend. Someone has to mind the cat. Back in August, around the 28th. School starts then.
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You know there is another name that popped up in my head, which kind of follows the same situation. Travis Meeks from Days of the New. I'm sorry, but you can't form a band, get huge, and then treat the rest of the people in it like hired hands. It just ain't cool. I was personally happy to see that the rest of the guys that formed Tantric went on to do good things.
In case some of you don't know what the hell I am raving about, here is some info, as best as I can remeber it:
Travis Meeks/Days of the New: Went big, then Travis fires everyone in the band, going on to hire a whole new set of players. This did two things. For one, it meant that the old guys wouldn't get any royalties from any more top selling albums (but we all know how far that went, don't we). Two, it meant that Travis would get a larger portion of future royalties because all the new guys were hired as session players.
Scott Stapp/Mark Tremonti/Creed: After 10 years together, these two signed a contract giving the themselves the usual royalties, plus 100% of the profits from their Creed merchanise, and nothing more than record sales royalties for the rest of the band.
Now, I don't profess to know a whole lot about the record/band buisness, but I think I can safely assume that those are shitty deals. I also know a changing of staff is not all that unusuall, but its usually because one member either leaves, or is fired. BUT NOT THE WHOLE DAMN BAND! Unless you are one of those on again off again people (Joe Satriani, whats-his-name-Malmsteen, Steve Vai) who don't keep regular band members around, I would think that such behavior would be totaly unacceptable. Sorry, I feel better now......
In case some of you don't know what the hell I am raving about, here is some info, as best as I can remeber it:
Travis Meeks/Days of the New: Went big, then Travis fires everyone in the band, going on to hire a whole new set of players. This did two things. For one, it meant that the old guys wouldn't get any royalties from any more top selling albums (but we all know how far that went, don't we). Two, it meant that Travis would get a larger portion of future royalties because all the new guys were hired as session players.
Scott Stapp/Mark Tremonti/Creed: After 10 years together, these two signed a contract giving the themselves the usual royalties, plus 100% of the profits from their Creed merchanise, and nothing more than record sales royalties for the rest of the band.
Now, I don't profess to know a whole lot about the record/band buisness, but I think I can safely assume that those are shitty deals. I also know a changing of staff is not all that unusuall, but its usually because one member either leaves, or is fired. BUT NOT THE WHOLE DAMN BAND! Unless you are one of those on again off again people (Joe Satriani, whats-his-name-Malmsteen, Steve Vai) who don't keep regular band members around, I would think that such behavior would be totaly unacceptable. Sorry, I feel better now......
This is what usually happens with most recording artists. Only the songwriters are guaranteed to earn royalties. This is a matter of federal law that they must be paid on a certain schedule.
Mechanical royalties are written into the contracts, usually at a starting rate of 13%. However, you will not see any monies from mechanicals until such time as all your overhead has been reimbursed to the record company (i.e. promotion, production, lunches, etc.). Unless the band has an agreement such as Kiss did in the 1970s that all members of the band will be making money from the songwriting royalties, they can forget about earning any money in the music business unless they're shifting massive numbers of units (around 5 million copies sold).
If you want a good overview of the music business and all the loopholes that can be found in a standard recording contract, visit http://www.mosesavalon.com or go to the media section of your local bookstore and pick up a copy of Confessions of a Record Producer or Secrets of Negotiating a Recording Contract. You'll learn a lot.
Mechanical royalties are written into the contracts, usually at a starting rate of 13%. However, you will not see any monies from mechanicals until such time as all your overhead has been reimbursed to the record company (i.e. promotion, production, lunches, etc.). Unless the band has an agreement such as Kiss did in the 1970s that all members of the band will be making money from the songwriting royalties, they can forget about earning any money in the music business unless they're shifting massive numbers of units (around 5 million copies sold).
If you want a good overview of the music business and all the loopholes that can be found in a standard recording contract, visit http://www.mosesavalon.com or go to the media section of your local bookstore and pick up a copy of Confessions of a Record Producer or Secrets of Negotiating a Recording Contract. You'll learn a lot.
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