One of the lamest things ever dude. I end up just taking a medium-soft sample and pasting the same one over and over and then automate it a lot, just for a bit of weight. Soft hits can sound really weird to my ears. If they're doing a little ghosty-roll thing though - fucking lame. Just hope that trigger picks it up right. Maybe try normalising each ghost hit section and then using trigger in soft hit only mode or whatever it is.
I was mixing a track from the atikus album that you recorded drums for yeeeaaaars back and re-triggering was a pain in the arse. Sam is the true king of ghost notes AND it wasn't recorded to a click!
Well-tracked snare is a lifesaver. Sometimes I get away with just muting the triggered channel on the ghosts (or making sure Trigger won't pick them up) if decent enough triggering turns out to be nearly impossible.
yeah... I sure didn't track this one, hence triggering em!
It's a little ghosty roll thing in a beat... through most of the song... FML
May just leave the triggering on the hard hits or I'll go insane!
Isolate them on a separate track? Depending on the complexity of the beat it might still be a pain in the ass but at least you don't have to automate everything.
Yeah I hate triggering ghost notes, absolute pain in the ass, and it never quite sounds right. Use a separate track maybe, or program in better looking transients, then adjust TRIGGER to cause those hits to be triggered as softly as you need?
I've been mixing a few songs for my church each month lately, which are all live tracks recorded during the service, and there was one part on a song with a pretty straightforward ghosting thing, but the raw snare sound from the whole set list was absolutely horrendous (I wasn't involved with mic placement, drum tuning, or anything), so I had to lean pretty heavily on samples to make it all sound decent, and I had to do some of the "program in better looking transients" thing to make it work out. The music player on the church site doesn't have a timeline, but you can check it out if you want- it's the song "All Creatures"...the part I'm referring to is almost blast beat actually, haha: http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/kings-kaleidoscope
Sounds good Aaron but am I the only one to think that softer hits sound "cloudy" on many slate stock snares, like you're suddenly standing in the the diffuse field?
I went through the hassle of separating all the ghost notes onto another track and replacing them with some really nice clean ghost hits ... when the drums were soloed out there was just so much cool shit and groove that was getting lost with all the guitars & bass ... after going through all that I put the guitars and bass back in and voila! .. still couldn't hear them! hahahaha
it just seems to me to be something that is only worth it for quieter passages and such, otherwise I won't even bother anymore
When I have run into this situation, I have done 1 of 2 things.
1. Kept the raw snare for the project. Which is why it always serves to learn how to track a drum kit well as if you don't expect to use replacement.
2. Program the snare track again myself. Ghost notes can be done this way if you're clever about it. Midi is my element. It will save the world one day.
Yeah, I have a lot of trouble with this also, same with a group of snare hits which are lower in velocity, like a few triplets together, can be a real pain. I like the idea of going for the raw snare in those cases rather than trying to trigger it.