Tunebot Help

[Studdy]

Just got a tunebot drum tuner. I dont really understand the unit because the suggested setting are so tight its insane. It says to hit the drum in the center to find the fundemental tone, which i do. Then it says to go lug by lug. I think I know the problem but dont know the solution. Let use the floor tom for an example. If i hit the center and say i get a reading of 80. Then i start near the lugs i also get a low number like 80 or so. I know the tunebot suggested settings a probably a bit high but literally it say to tune to like 150 and shit. Thats nuts. Can anyone with experience using this thing give me an idea of what numbers and methods they are using. I use a yamaha birch set with 10 12 and 16 toms.

Thanks Everyone!

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[Trevoire520]

I do remember the suggested settings being quite high when I looked at them. I found it was better to get the drum roughly where I want it to sound by ear and then use the tune bot to fine tune it and get it sounding perfect.

 

[Studdy]

Can you be more specific on say a 10 inch tom what are the lugs at? Are you getting the same reading at the lug that you are at the center of drum?

 

[Trevoire520]

I'm not going to be at the studio till next week and can't remember off the top of my head. I think my floor tom was about 80-90ish on the batter? (at the lugs, didn't really do much checking on the centre) Not sure about the rest.

 

[DavePiatek]

You can try setting the HPF on the TuneBot. That'll filter out lower octave and you can tune the drum to the suggested value.

 

[Studdy]

Can i get some specific tuning values.

Example

10 inch tom (110hz at lugs on batter/ 115hz at lugs on resonant)

12 inch tom (100hz at lugs on batter/ 105hz at lugs on resonant)

16 inch tom (90hz at lugs on batter/ 100hz at lugs on resonant)

I know that no 2 kits are going to sound the same but i really think i could benefit from this.

Thanks everyone!

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

I'm running 108, 92, and 74 on a 10"/12"/ and 16"

Fundamental pitches.

Lugs are around 144, 133, and 115

Notes are A, F#, D

 

[Studdy]

Thanks!

Any other suggestions or help?

 

[drew_drummer]

Notes are A, F#, D

Appetite For Destruction?

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Nay, just what sounded good for me.

Never made that connection.

 

[colonel_claypoo]

I like to tunebot a lot and use it every time. however, I find it difficult to arrive at a note for any given drum using the drum lug pitches recommended in the manual.
for example, if I want to tune a 14" tom to a fundamental note of 2G (98hz) with low resonance, I have to tune the reso head to 225hz (fundamental * 2.3) and the batter head to 118hz (funamental * 1.2).
I have recently tried these figures for a 14" tom and I was quite a few cents sharp of 2G.

How do you deal with that? I don't have hours and hours in a session to try out different reso and batter lug pitches in order to arrive at the desired fundamental note.

 

[Studdy]

Any more suggested tuning would be amazing just for practice.
Can anyone else share their insights.

Batter Tuning - Center(Fundemental), Lug, Note
Reso Tuning - Center(Fundemental), Lug, Note

For each tom? I have a 10, 12 and 16.

Thanks again.

 

[Studdy]

bump.

 

[mva801]

Each drum and each type of head are going to sound different man. The ONLY way you're going to learn to tune your drums is by practicing. Bring it up it where the head is just barely resonating, and even up the pitch all around. See if you like it. Then tune it up a little higher. See if you like it. Then tune it up a little higher. See if you like it. Keep the bottom head the same as the top. when it sounds good, experiment with bringing the bottom head up or down a little and see how that changes it.

FWIW, I've found that with our studio's drums (maple camcos. 13' and 16" toms) the 13" tom likes to sit at 155 at the lugs, and the floor tom likes to be around 113 at the lugs, top and bottom. I just sat around for a day messing with things until I got what I felt was best.

 

[Studdy]

Thanks for the response and I agree with you about more practice makes perfect, but i kinda thought the idea of the tune bot was for learning and hearing, this is why i bought it. I just thought someone here with a birch yamaha kit with 10 12 and 16 in toms could share their tunebot settings not to copy just to experiment and practice, because i feel that the suggested tunings that came with the device sound tight. I though maybe the visual of the tune bot along with the listening practice would work best for me. Thanks

 

[mva801]

I feel like with as different as everybody is, you may as well just pick some random numbers and see what they sound like. The stuff in their manual is a little tight, that's why I'd suggest starting with your own drums just at the point where they start resonating and going UP from there, noting the characteristics at certain settings. A little goes a long way with drum tuning, so you'll quickly get the hang of how your drums respond to everything.

I've found the only thing in the tunebot manual that is really helpful to be the frequency chart. That helps you quickly tune the heads in musical intervals from each other.