Uberschall Rev blue tone test 2

[ScootBaloo]

I reamped a short section of Ola's Song 3 as a tone test.
I have had a lot of trouble getting a useable tone from my Rev Blue
so this is my latest attempt.

Is the guitar tone useable in a mix, what does it need ?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2785995/ola-16.mp3

EDIT : Updated the link.

 

[Joshua Wickman]

What cab and mic did you use?

 

[ScootBaloo]

What cab and mic did you use?

The cab is a Mesa Boogie Recto 2x12 and I had a SM57 on one speaker and a MD421 on the other.

 

[AboutBlank]

What I would do is:
import -for example- Lasses Überschall Clips in your project and compare during Micing and eqing(Amp setting).

I think thats the best way to learn and nail good sounds.
Compare all the time, even if its painful

 

[ScootBaloo]

Thanks, thats a good idea about comparing.
One problem is that no one here seems to have a Rev blue model which is different to the Rev green and the twin Jet models.
Its not possible to directly compare amp settings between a rev green and a rev blue due to the differences in the lead
channel and also Lasse has KT88 in the power section while I have EL34.
I like your suggestion and I hope I can find another Rev blue owner so I can compare.

 

[ScootBaloo]

I compared my tone to some other tones and tried to get a
more balanced spectrum to the guitar tone by moving the mic.

Did I manage to achieve a somewhat balanced guitar tone ?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2785995/ola-14.mp3

 

[John_C]

mp3s

Not everyone has lightening fast internet.

 

[SavageDoom]

ScootBaloo:

I must say, hearing different tones/clips of Bogner Uberschalls is great. But every time you post a .wav a budding antichrist smashes a kitten, masturbates over the corpse and staples his own balls to the wall. This individual has probably consumed more than a kilogram of uncooked chicken and chives and by the fuck of a rabbit's tusk is surely going to turn inside out with the pains that salmonella has to offer. And it breaks my heart.

May we please have a future bearing the fruit of mp3s?
It won't kill the tone.

Please save the kitten.

 

[John_C]

ScootBaloo:

I must say, hearing different tones/clips of Bogner Uberschalls is great. But every time you post a .wav a budding antichrist smashes a kitten, masturbates over the corpse and staples his own balls to the wall. This individual has probably consumed more than a kilogram of uncooked chicken and chives and by the fuck of a rabbit's tusk is surely going to turn inside out with the pains that salmonella has to offer. And it breaks my heart.

May we please have a future bearing the fruit of mp3s?
It won't kill the tone.

Please save the kitten.

Epic!

 

[ScootBaloo]

I don't wish to harm kittens in any way :

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2785995/ola-14.mp3

 

[John_C]

fuzzzzyyy midsss. I'd say just stick with the 57 for now and work with that.

 

[SavageDoom]

ScootBaloo:

Many thanks.

With regard to the tone:

I feel the guitars are too loud. It does seem to have a stuffiness to it and at the same time too much/many mids and a lack of bass. Actually perhaps stuffy and "honky" might be the best description. I also reckon gaining proficiency with just one mic first (SM57) would be the way to go. Also, the rhythm tone is more middy whereas the lead tone is scooped which I feel should be the other way around.

I have no experience with micing amps waah but I'll make a suggestion based on the approach I would take if I were in your position:

An approach that comes to mind would be to have headphones (with good isolation) and have both the mix (minus any guitar tracks of course) + the mic track being monitored, playing through them. Then you can move the mic around and tweak amp settings "somewhat in context" of the mix.

An alternative might be to get the best tone that you can, in the room, referencing another guitar tone from a mix that you like the sound of, to get in the ballpark. If you have multitracks(I think that's what they are called) available for a mix that you like, try to use one of the guitar tracks as a reference. Using this approach it may however be better to attempt to "get in the ballpark" using what comes out of your monitors/headphones (from your mic track) to compare to the reference.

Also, anyone feel free to say "Fuck sakes, SavageDoom! You're bloody wrong!" if in fact I am. Although I would hope that my mention of total lack of experience with micing amps would be enough to function as a disclaimer.

Good luck with your tone quest!

 

[ScootBaloo]

A more scooped reamp of the song, just one mic ( SM57 ) :

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2785995/ola-16.mp3