UC Davis protestors get pepper sprayed big time
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Loren Littlejohn
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This is my reaction. If you don't GTFO of the way after being warned then you really can't be to surprised if someone sprays you in the face with capsaicin. Out of all the options afforded to police to control a situation, honestly I would rather get nailed with pepper than get tazed or shot with rubber.
Loren Littlejohn
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this.It doesn't matter though, come election time both parties will have shitty candidates running. It's always just "pick the lesser of the 2 evils."
I'm probably going to cast my vote for someone in a 3rd party this year just so I don't have to vote for either of the 2 assholes that will be running.
drew_drummer
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Anyone who thinks this is acceptable behaviour for a police force who are paid by the tax system is either incredibly stupid, or a borderline psychopath. On no human level is this acceptable.
egan.
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But honestly, what needed to be controlled about this? I work on a college campus and students are always standing in the way blocking sidewalks, hallways, doorways, setting up tables in the middle of everything to advertise their dumb events and generally being in the way (and inconsiderate). The only way this differs is that they actually had a grievance with the University.
I do agree that this outcome was predictable. I do agree that singling the cop out (and posting his home address/phone/email) on the internet is an overstep. However, in the context of this situation-- location (public land), participants (students who attend school on said land), and activity (blocking a sidewalk)-- this was unnecessary. If anyone loses their job though it should be administrators though.
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Loren Littlejohn
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I'm only commenting on the fact that if I was sitting down and someone said "move or I will pepper spray you." Then I would be an idiot to not take that seriously. Whether it was right or wrong to do so. I was agreeing with the cause and effect thing.
Also, I as a student (when I was a student) would be incredibly annoyed if some asshole was making it hard for me to get to the class I paid to go to. "why are you late" because some asshole literally made it difficult to get here, sorry.
John_C
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If a protest doesn't inconvenience anyone then what's the point? You might as well send a letter saying please...
drew_drummer
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The idea behind lawful, and peaceful protests, is that you try to nullify any violence and any reason for the powers that be to not listen to your arguments.
But it's a little bit horse before the cart in this case, as they've not thought through their arguments enough. The OWS movement is just not convincing enough for people to listen to it.
Morgan C
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Fuck police (or anyone) who do things 'by the book', when 'by the book' means stuff like this. There has to come a point where your own personal principles override what the book tells you to do.
It's spread to multiple countries, that seems pretty convincing to me.
It's spread to multiple countries, that seems pretty convincing to me.
drew_drummer
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It's still a minority in each country, and the actual arguments they make are largely vacuous and not pragmatic enough.
They just want to vent their anger, which I can understand. But there are no solutions to be found within their ranks.
They just want to vent their anger, which I can understand. But there are no solutions to be found within their ranks.
roy22341
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Fact is these kids got exactly what they wanted - attention. What easier way to play the victim than to get pepper sprayed.
I know if I was at a school that jacked my tuition up that much, instead of sitting on a sidewalk over it I'd transfer to a different school. But then I wouldn't be on YouTube.
I know if I was at a school that jacked my tuition up that much, instead of sitting on a sidewalk over it I'd transfer to a different school. But then I wouldn't be on YouTube.
drew_drummer
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Trevoire520
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Just because someone doesn't have all the answers doesn't mean their protest is invalid.
People are pissed off that the minority who are in power make decisions based on their own interests, not giving a fuck about how it effects the vast majority of the population, the people who put them in power are being continuously shafted by the government. This is something that I'm sure everyone, whether or not they're involved in these protests, can relate to.
We have been forced to take on massive debts caused by the financial sector, who have shown absolutely no remorse for their widescale fuck up, are still getting paid millions in bonuses and have made no changes within their industry to ensure this doesn't happen again.
And what do we get in exchange for bailing these bastards out? Brutal austerity measures and our children are all going to be born into debt. How nice. They fucked up and now we're paying for it. Hardly a fair society is it?
Just because you don't have a master plan on how to make everything better doesn't mean you're not allowed to be unhappy with how things are being run. And it certainly shouldn't mean that you're not allowed to express the fact that you're not happy.
I suppose we should all just roll over and take it in the ass, letting the government do whatever they feel like and never making a sound? Just because we don't have all the answers.
drew_drummer
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Didn't say it was. I said it wasn't very convincing. As to rest of your post... you're putting words in my mouth.
roy22341
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I dunno, maybe I'd be more sympathetic if these people had jobs, or real world experience, or weren't going to a 30k$ a year school and joining the protest of the day. Yes there is injustice, but a majority of these spoiled little boys and girls don't have a clue what the real world has in store. Go to Harlem, go to the ghetto, inner cities, soup kitchens, a minimum wage factory, etc. etc.
Sitting on a college campus, majoring in philosophy and art, then bitching you can't find a job while having zero real skills doesn't get much sympathy from me. I feel sorry for blue collar workers whose jobs were shipped overseas, families whose houses are being foreclosed on, people who don't know where their next hot meal is coming from. I don't have much sympathy left over for liberal arts majors with iPhones who will vote for Obama (who has started bombing two additional countries, failed to enact any policies that have helped the economy in any way, and has taken millions in campaign donations from Wall Street while packing his cabinet with corporate tax chats) because of "hope."
Sitting on a college campus, majoring in philosophy and art, then bitching you can't find a job while having zero real skills doesn't get much sympathy from me. I feel sorry for blue collar workers whose jobs were shipped overseas, families whose houses are being foreclosed on, people who don't know where their next hot meal is coming from. I don't have much sympathy left over for liberal arts majors with iPhones who will vote for Obama (who has started bombing two additional countries, failed to enact any policies that have helped the economy in any way, and has taken millions in campaign donations from Wall Street while packing his cabinet with corporate tax chats) because of "hope."
While I do agree with you that people should definitely not just be content, I do feel that if you are going to bitch about something at least have some reasonable ideas on how to change/fix it.
My issue with these, and the OWS, people is there seems to be a huge bandwagon trend, and not enough problem solving or true action to change anything.
Trevoire520
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Here's a few ideas:
Global implementation of the Robin Hood Tax to make the banks pay for the financial crisis that they caused. Why the fuck should we bail them out? If we fuck up at our jobs we get fired, when bankers fuck up they get a bonus. What's that all about?
Close tax loopholes for big corporations. They make billions in profit every year by selling overpriced shit to ordinary people with barely two pennies to rub together. The least they can do is pay their fair share of tax like we have to.
Less money spent on war and more spent looking after your citizens at home.
End world hunger now. It would only cost $30 billion per year and after 10 years the work done on improving agriculture should mean that it will be self sufficient and would no longer cost anything. To put the cost of that into perspective currently the US alone spends $540 billion a year on defence. If everyone chipped in it would barely cost anything for each country involved.
Governments should start making decisions based on what will benefit the majority of the population, not just their buddies in banking and other massive corporations.
Politicians wages and expenses should be slashed. How the hell are they supposed to make decisions that effect those who live from paycheck to paycheck when they've never had to experience that themselves? Put them on minimum wage with no expenses so they can see what it's like. Hell then maybe we'll get someone in power who actually wants to help the country rather than for the fancy lifestyle and cushty pension.
I don't personally see how a politician on £100,000 a year should be entitled to have his living expenses paid for, essentially making their wages almost entirely made up of disposable income. When those who work their butts off for less than £20,000 a year are expected to pay for everything themselves. If you're on £100k a year then you can blatantly afford to pay your own way in life.
Global transparency in governments. Those who are put in power to represent us shouldn't be keeping secrets from us and making decisions behind our backs.
It should be MUCH easier to remove MP's from government if they act inappropriately when representing us or fail to fulfill the promises they made during their election campaign.
How about a law that forces companies to pay their workers a percentage of their profits. I don't think it's right that some companies make billions in profits every year when their workers are paid pennies a day. No company can succeed without those on the bottom doing the hard graft, so surely they should get something reasonable in return?
Global implementation of the Robin Hood Tax to make the banks pay for the financial crisis that they caused. Why the fuck should we bail them out? If we fuck up at our jobs we get fired, when bankers fuck up they get a bonus. What's that all about?
Close tax loopholes for big corporations. They make billions in profit every year by selling overpriced shit to ordinary people with barely two pennies to rub together. The least they can do is pay their fair share of tax like we have to.
Less money spent on war and more spent looking after your citizens at home.
End world hunger now. It would only cost $30 billion per year and after 10 years the work done on improving agriculture should mean that it will be self sufficient and would no longer cost anything. To put the cost of that into perspective currently the US alone spends $540 billion a year on defence. If everyone chipped in it would barely cost anything for each country involved.
Governments should start making decisions based on what will benefit the majority of the population, not just their buddies in banking and other massive corporations.
Politicians wages and expenses should be slashed. How the hell are they supposed to make decisions that effect those who live from paycheck to paycheck when they've never had to experience that themselves? Put them on minimum wage with no expenses so they can see what it's like. Hell then maybe we'll get someone in power who actually wants to help the country rather than for the fancy lifestyle and cushty pension.
I don't personally see how a politician on £100,000 a year should be entitled to have his living expenses paid for, essentially making their wages almost entirely made up of disposable income. When those who work their butts off for less than £20,000 a year are expected to pay for everything themselves. If you're on £100k a year then you can blatantly afford to pay your own way in life.
Global transparency in governments. Those who are put in power to represent us shouldn't be keeping secrets from us and making decisions behind our backs.
It should be MUCH easier to remove MP's from government if they act inappropriately when representing us or fail to fulfill the promises they made during their election campaign.
How about a law that forces companies to pay their workers a percentage of their profits. I don't think it's right that some companies make billions in profits every year when their workers are paid pennies a day. No company can succeed without those on the bottom doing the hard graft, so surely they should get something reasonable in return?
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