Varg Vikernes is a fucking idiot
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LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
BTW he was not "arrested" but in "Garde à Vue" which is just being interrogated and taken by the police for 24h (up to 48h in exceptionnal cases, and 96h when they got evidence letting them think you actually did what you are taken for) when they think you're about to do or did any kind of "infraction". You're not even in "jail" but just at the police station.
ratsapprentice
God can gtfo
.22 rifles are not "kinda heavy weapons", that's like calling a Sopwith Camel a passenger airliner.
It is realistically impossible for anyone to commit a "massacre" with weapons like that.
They are a few notches up from a powerful air-rifle.
It is realistically impossible for anyone to commit a "massacre" with weapons like that.
They are a few notches up from a powerful air-rifle.
StefTD
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no heavy weapons, but in my area, there was a case of a guy who killed his wife and her parents with a .22 rifle.
Maybe not the best weapon for a "massacre" but still possible to injure people.
ratsapprentice
God can gtfo
You can kill people by punching them or hitting them with a hammer if they are not expecting it.
You could certainly assassinate one or two people very easily with them from close range.
These rounds are mainly used to kill rodents and for sport shooting.
You would be far more capable of committing a "massacre" with a kitchen knife.
You could certainly assassinate one or two people very easily with them from close range.
These rounds are mainly used to kill rodents and for sport shooting.
You would be far more capable of committing a "massacre" with a kitchen knife.
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
Again, no, its far more difficult to commit a massacre with a close range weapon.
EDIT : I find it ironic that you would post such a comment when Breivik even used a .22 rifle (with illegal ammo though)
EDIT : I find it ironic that you would post such a comment when Breivik even used a .22 rifle (with illegal ammo though)
ratsapprentice
God can gtfo
And it's very difficult to commit a massacre using a .22 rifle.
That's the point I'm making, which is why I compared it to using a knife.
You don't suddenly become a terminator.
No, Breivic used .223 amongst other larger caliber ammunition.
Below is a .22 compared with a .223:
That's the point I'm making, which is why I compared it to using a knife.
You don't suddenly become a terminator.
No, Breivic used .223 amongst other larger caliber ammunition.
Below is a .22 compared with a .223:
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
Ah, indeed different ! Why would it be called .223 when it's so different to .22, what is the logic in the size of weapon ammo ? Is that the size of the bullet itself, but the design of the .223 implies more powder or something like that ?
ratsapprentice
God can gtfo
The number will relate to the caliber (diameter) of the bullet, which is the top section, if you look they are the same diameter...
The biggest differences between those two is the bullet of the .22 is made of lead, whilst the .223 is an FMJ (lead with a harder metal coat (normally steel)).
And the case (the bottom section) is obviously much larger, thus holds a lot more propellant.
The caliber of a bullet is not an exact way of judging the capability/use of a round. For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cartridge_Sample_2.jpg
Look at 8 and 9, both are .223 rounds.
Most rounds are known by their caliber (9mm, .45, 5.56, 7.62, .50 cal etc.) although there are many (fucking hundreds) of different types for those calibers, as there are many more variables other than the caliber.
Therefore the caliber on it's own will generally refer to the most common round in that caliber.
For example if someone refers to a 5.56mm round, he will be talking about one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56×45mm_NATO , as it is the most common variety.
The biggest differences between those two is the bullet of the .22 is made of lead, whilst the .223 is an FMJ (lead with a harder metal coat (normally steel)).
And the case (the bottom section) is obviously much larger, thus holds a lot more propellant.
The caliber of a bullet is not an exact way of judging the capability/use of a round. For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cartridge_Sample_2.jpg
Look at 8 and 9, both are .223 rounds.
Most rounds are known by their caliber (9mm, .45, 5.56, 7.62, .50 cal etc.) although there are many (fucking hundreds) of different types for those calibers, as there are many more variables other than the caliber.
Therefore the caliber on it's own will generally refer to the most common round in that caliber.
For example if someone refers to a 5.56mm round, he will be talking about one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56×45mm_NATO , as it is the most common variety.
TheWinterSnow
Den Mørke Natt
Already beaten to it but yes, round diameter does not always correlate to capability and use. At the same time, while the .223 or NATO 5.56mmX45mm may seem large, to actually hold on in your hand they are extremely small; the diameter of the both pictured is the thickness of 4 to 5 Jazz III picks. The propellant is responsible for muzzle velocity, meaning it can travel faster, and more accurately, resulting in a longer effective range.
Like also mentioned because they are usually stronger and typically have a sharper point to them, they tend to have great penetrating power but won't do as much tissue damage as say the .22 which will deform and use all of its energy to do a large area of effect damage to even surrounding tissues. If the bullet were to penetrate right through you and keep going, very little energy was used to do damage to you.
As for the detainment laws, I don't what kind of probable cause they had, but for the EU guys that may not know, on the other side of the pond, including Canada IIRC, search warrants are required to arrest and detain an individual and requires forehand knowledge of what on that persons property is to be seized and why. Only then does the warrant get signed off by a judge. After the person is detained well they are innocent until proven guilty and if the "evidence seized" proves no guilt after 24 to 48 hours they are let go. That may seem to be what happened but it seemed more like a pre-emptive strike due to his affiliations without any hard intelligence or evidence, in which case they did overstep their boundaries completely.
Like also mentioned because they are usually stronger and typically have a sharper point to them, they tend to have great penetrating power but won't do as much tissue damage as say the .22 which will deform and use all of its energy to do a large area of effect damage to even surrounding tissues. If the bullet were to penetrate right through you and keep going, very little energy was used to do damage to you.
As for the detainment laws, I don't what kind of probable cause they had, but for the EU guys that may not know, on the other side of the pond, including Canada IIRC, search warrants are required to arrest and detain an individual and requires forehand knowledge of what on that persons property is to be seized and why. Only then does the warrant get signed off by a judge. After the person is detained well they are innocent until proven guilty and if the "evidence seized" proves no guilt after 24 to 48 hours they are let go. That may seem to be what happened but it seemed more like a pre-emptive strike due to his affiliations without any hard intelligence or evidence, in which case they did overstep their boundaries completely.
plague_rider
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drew_drummer
Dancefap
Jeez... he even looks like a douche. One of those people who has taken the whole image consultancy thing way too seriously! I don't see much difference between him and Beyonce to be honest - both are massive asses!
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drew_drummer
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jipchen
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Could we just stop talking about him? He's a douchebag, probably insane, definitely a murderer and a neo-nazi.
He doesn't deserve more attention than a piece of shit floating in a sewer.
He doesn't deserve more attention than a piece of shit floating in a sewer.
Nuno Filipe
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FarBeyondMetal
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I love how The Winter Snow compared bullet caliber to guitar picks stacked together. Only on the Sneap forum hahah THAT IS SO METAL! 
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