Video Camera advice needed!

i own the 600D and i really makes some great vids.
with the "magic lantern" mod you have also tons and tons of more options.

i don't use the standard lens though, bought a 500mm 1,4f, very good lens for video,
should be about 1K all together.
 
You'll definitely want to move away from that 18-55mm lens pretty quickly. It does its job, but you'll grow out of it quickly.

You can get a canon 50mm f/1.8 for $100 or less and its an amazing lens, the f/1.4 is a few hundred more, also an amazing lens.

This camera shoots decent video. Might want to consider an external mic for audio as the on camera mics are garbage. Rode makes a great hot-shoe mount SDC.
 
I got a used Nikon D7000 and 35/1.8 lens for about $650 total and couldn't be happier. I'll be posting footage/pictures with a few projects coming up but it gives stupidly good results for how cheap the rig is.
 
Thumps up for GH2. Used its very cheap and still has one of the best video sensors, I saw enough comparisons between the GH2 and a Red Epic and in 1080p you can barely see any difference. Which is a total mindfuck.
 
I think most DSLRs now have this feature, but when I got my t3i years ago, canon had yet to implemment the follow focus/autofocus in video mode for that series. Most videographers will bitch and gripe about how useless or inadequate the feature is - but you begin to appreciate it, especially when you can't be hands on and ride the focus ring on the lense while playing the guitar at the same time! :p

Secondly... lighting. LIGHTING! :rofl:
 
Damn, there's so much to learn about this field. I'm definitely going to need something with decent AF for random guitar playthroughs. (I know AF sucks hamster cock, but it does have it's uses)

Between the D7000, GH4, and this 600D, which has a more intuitive AF?

I'm definitely going with a better lense and external mic.
 
I hate how autofocus looks with videos personally and you should probably avoid it and just close the aperture a bit.

I have two micro-four-thirds system cameras, an Olympus EPL5 and a Panasonic GF2 (about $120 used, can be modded). The Olympus is way better to use but the video quality is quite similar. I bought the EPL5 mainly for photography but got the GF2 when I needed an extra angle for a low budget video. Already having a handful of lenses made it an easy purchase. Really considering the OMD EM5 MKII for next upgrade rather than switching to Sony alpha series or Canon/Nikon systems. I really like the microfourthirds format for the size, weight and lens options but I fully understand they're not designed for video.

Definitely prefer vintage manual focus lenses for video, but I use my 19mm sigma for indoor talking to the camera stuff.

LOTS of light, and ways to adjust it turned out to have the most impact in the image quality. Don't forget to do custom white balanced EVERY time.
 
I hate how autofocus looks with videos personally and you should probably avoid it and just close the aperture a bit.

I have two micro-four-thirds system cameras, an Olympus EPL5 and a Panasonic GF2 (about $120 used, can be modded). The Olympus is way better to use but the video quality is quite similar. I bought the EPL5 mainly for photography but got the GF2 when I needed an extra angle for a low budget video. Already having a handful of lenses made it an easy purchase. Really considering the OMD EM5 MKII for next upgrade rather than switching to Sony alpha series or Canon/Nikon systems. I really like the microfourthirds format for the size, weight and lens options but I fully understand they're not designed for video.

Definitely prefer vintage manual focus lenses for video, but I use my 19mm sigma for indoor talking to the camera stuff.

LOTS of light, and ways to adjust it turned out to have the most impact in the image quality. Don't forget to do custom white balanced EVERY time.
 
AudioGeekZine said:
I hate how autofocus looks with videos personally and you should probably avoid it and just close the aperture a bit.

I have two micro-four-thirds system cameras, an Olympus EPL5 and a Panasonic GF2 (about $120 used, can be modded). The Olympus is way better to use but the video quality is quite similar. I bought the EPL5 mainly for photography but got the GF2 when I needed an extra angle for a low budget video. Already having a handful of lenses made it an easy purchase. Really considering the OMD EM5 MKII for next upgrade rather than switching to Sony alpha series or Canon/Nikon systems. I really like the microfourthirds format for the size, weight and lens options but I fully understand they're not designed for video.

Definitely prefer vintage manual focus lenses for video, but I use my 19mm sigma for indoor talking to the camera stuff.

LOTS of light, and ways to adjust it turned out to have the most impact in the image quality. Don't forget to do custom white balanced EVERY time.
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Thanks for the info man! I caved and got the t3i, it came refurbished and had a lot of goodies for $500. If I can figure this guy out to a reasonable degree I'll probably upgrade to something better.

Can you suggest some decent articles on getting started with understanding basic video recording in general? All the forums I've come across have all been a bit too advanced, I need to go from square one.
 
My advice would be to buy an actual camcorder for video.

All I see mentioned here are photocamera's with video capabilities.

Sure some of them get good quality, but if you really want a camera for video, buy a videocamera!
If you plan to use it as a photocamera too, ignore what I said :devil:
 
I have a ton of links.

Here's a decent video on 3-point lighting, it's for photography but can apply to most indoor situations.
http://youtu.be/gkUqBJoxZ-I

CreativeLive has a bunch of good courses on Video production
https://www.creativelive.com/catalo...=tags&price=0&sort=1&upcoming=0&qd=filmmaking

Personal favorite is Guerilla Filmmaking by Ryan Connolly.
https://www.creativelive.com/courses/guerilla-filmmaking-ryan-connolly

Subscribe to Film Riot on YouTube
http://youtube.com/user/filmriot

Sam & Nico have a good series on audio for film here
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwVUbPpIRn1QLyMykPkgiEbeodwDH4TkJ

and more on lighting on their channel.
This one is good
http://youtu.be/2oUFiNb7DpM
 
AudioGeekZine said:
I have a ton of links.

Here's a decent video on 3-point lighting, it's for photography but can apply to most indoor situations.
http://youtu.be/gkUqBJoxZ-I

CreativeLive has a bunch of good courses on Video production
https://www.creativelive.com/catalo...=tags&price=0&sort=1&upcoming=0&qd=filmmaking

Personal favorite is Guerilla Filmmaking by Ryan Connolly.
https://www.creativelive.com/courses/guerilla-filmmaking-ryan-connolly

Subscribe to Film Riot on YouTube
http://youtube.com/user/filmriot

Sam & Nico have a good series on audio for film here
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwVUbPpIRn1QLyMykPkgiEbeodwDH4TkJ

and more on lighting on their channel.
This one is good
http://youtu.be/2oUFiNb7DpM
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Woah, thanks a lot man! I'll check all of that out when I get home.

I do plan on using it for some pictures as well, I figured something like that camera would be good for an entry level noob like myself. Once I understand everything better I'll dive into actual video cameras and epic lenses.

Thanks again dude! :devil:
 
xfredericox said:
My advice would be to buy an actual camcorder for video.

All I see mentioned here are photocamera's with video capabilities.

Sure some of them get good quality, but if you really want a camera for video, buy a videocamera!
If you plan to use it as a photocamera too, ignore what I said :devil:
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I don't really know which camcorders are actually good these days. I always thought of them as being lower quality, plastic, crappy low light performance, no image stabilization, cheap lens, no aperture control.

Are there any that allow changing lenses or use of focus assist rigs?
 
AudioGeekZine said:
I don't really know which camcorders are actually good these days. I always thought of them as being lower quality, plastic, crappy low light performance, no image stabilization, cheap lens, no aperture control.

Are there any that allow changing lenses or use of focus assist rigs?
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When I was thinking of taking the camcorder route all I came across was what you've just described. I don't imagine there'd be any with swapable lenses, and I haven't come across any that even have a manual focus option. Admitedly I'm no expert on camcorders. I just didn't like what I was finding when I looked into them.

I'm sure there are great camcorders out there, but I want to eventually get into the more intermediate stuff. Camcorders seem like the video version of using EZmix.

EDIT:
Just realized that wasn't directed at me. My bad lol.
 
well i used to own a canon XL-1, which was pretty neat back in its day.
Obviously I am not talking about pocket camcorders.

But honestly I've been out of the game too long to be able to direct you towards a good value for money camcorder.

The thing I had a problem with was the SD card size being too small for any serious use making high quality videos. Also most photocameras captured video with horrible compression.
But I guess i'm getting old
 
did some research today after my last post. The "Professional Camcorder" section on B & H has the Sony A700S and Panasonic GH4 at the top LOL. But there are dedicated video cameras that are modular: Canon C100, Blackmagic Cinema Camera and others. The majority of them are out of our price range.
And then there are those that require tapes for storage and slow transfer to the computer.
The biggest problem with DSLR video is the limit to 29 minutes of recording, some are as low as only 12 min max. That's a huge limitation to what you can do. Seems like the only way around that is with firmware hacks, or an off-camera hdmi capture device which adds cost, weight and complexity to the system.

DSLR Video get's pretty complicated

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http://www.dslrfilmnoob.com/2013/01/29/dslr-cage-mounting-options/
 
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