Vocals

[HCL]

I feel like I'm throwing the kitchen sink at this vocal track and it's still sounding really dry. It's got tons of compression, delay and such and it's still feeling dry and out of place with the rest of the track.

Any suggestions?

 

[Skinny Viking]

why don't you try givin us a clip

because right now, in my imagination, it sounds GREAT

 

[HCL]

Might be a good idea.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71405769/Studio/TFC/Progress/vocals.mp3

 

[Skinny Viking]

ok honestly, yeah it sounds kinda dry but I don't think its nearly as bad as YOU think it is. It really sounds to me like you have more than enough room for extra delay & a bit of verb but I also feel some of it might be an EQ issue. Try pulling some of those highs out, just a little at a time and see if they start seating in the mix better. Just make small changes to the EQ and small amounts of extra delay and / or verb and I think you'll have it

how do you have the vocal chain setup?

 

[HCL]

Few cents of pitchshifting, deessing, EQ, three comps then gate/delay/verb and some widening on the bus.

Took some of the high end out and cut some more mud out: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71405769/Studio/TFC/Progress/vocals2.mp3 It sounds a bit better, it probably needs more but I really don't want to risk it being too indistinct, I'll keep at it. Thanks for the help.

 

[Skinny Viking]

yeah man, no problem

personally I think this level of dry suits the music pretty well anyway. It does sound better now so, glad it helped

I still think you could get away easily with bringing up the wet level of the delay a bit, its not gonna hurt it. You could always try it and if you don't like it just revert back to this

 

[CharlesMonroe1989]

Copy the track twice and send these two new tracks to the same vocal bus. Then pitchshift one -3 and the other -5 semitones. HP these tracks at 100Hz and mix them slightly to the original vocaltrack. Compression before and after the pitchshifting!

 

[DanLights]

Copy the track twice and send these two new tracks to the same vocal bus. Then pitchshift one -3 and the other -5 semitones. HP these tracks at 100Hz and mix them slightly to the original vocaltrack. Compression before and after the pitchshifting!

Wouldn't that create an audible harmony which may or may not be desirable, and definitely not desirable throughout the whole song? I mean, you're technically creating a fake low Minor third and perfect fourth harmonies underneath the main vocal.

 

[Michiel]

Might be a pressence issue, too much will kill all fx and make the vox seem 'flat', i find the 1-1.5K region tends to sit nicely when pulling down ever so slightly in the 2-3K range. Hope it helps

 

[Skinny Viking]

Wouldn't that create an audible harmony which may or may not be desirable, and definitely not desirable throughout the whole song? I mean, you're technically creating a fake low Minor third and perfect fourth harmonies underneath the main vocal.

He's just talking about that doubler trick that lots of people have used, without the doubler

 

[Backe]

mix is da bomb, vocalist is terrible

 

[Keregioz]

He's just talking about that doubler trick that lots of people have used, without the doubler

Pitchshifting -3 and -5 semitones it's not a doubler effect

 

[Skinny Viking]

Pitchshifting -3 and -5 semitones it's not a doubler effect

Ooops!

 

[CharlesMonroe1989]

haha

 

[HCL]

This is how it came out:

 

[Skinny Viking]

"Hillucinations"???

other than that and the dude in the front right looking like the saddest man in the world ... sounds good!