Force10
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I'm just pissed because BP was clearly not prepared for this incident. It's not a matter of if something like this will happen, but when. They should have had disaster recovery plans in place before they began drilling.
We should totally do more offshore drilling.
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Pellaz
Tigron of Immanion
They had recovery booms already being put in place within 6-12 hours...and those are ungainly and pretty hard to transport. How fast do you need?
I saw in an article about 2 weeks ago that BP is already making emergency payments to Gulf businesses and such directly affected by the spill -- in the case cited, a charter fishing tour operator had received a check from BP for $5,000, and was expecting another one the following week, for lost revenue.
Compared to FEMA's response-time, that's like lightning.
I saw in an article about 2 weeks ago that BP is already making emergency payments to Gulf businesses and such directly affected by the spill -- in the case cited, a charter fishing tour operator had received a check from BP for $5,000, and was expecting another one the following week, for lost revenue.
Compared to FEMA's response-time, that's like lightning.
I dunno. If you take the commentary out of this, and just look at the facts, this is pretty disgusting. How can anyone defend this?
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Force10
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That's exactly what I was trying to say - they have no emergency plans. Like she said, they put their reaseach money into drilling instead of disaster planning.
I can't believe that these companies care about what happens while they are running their business.
And here's the effort to put out the fire - a couple of hoses.
freakchylde
PPUSA Driver o' Doom!!!!!
As far as the top post, you can thank Kennedy for some of that. They're still fighting for the wind farm off Nantucket Sound. At any rate, the only way to make the enviro-hippies happy is to ditch electricity, any transportation that doesn't involve animal drawn buggies, and skip all the new fangled contraptions we have thanks to the raping of the environment. That's been the whole argument against Nuclear energy. Wind Farms are attacked because they're loud and 'unsightly' and unfortunately our best locations for them happen to be in a rich person's back yard. Go fig.
Diamond45
Terminate Bad Music
Humans damage the environment just because of our existance. The environemental whackos don't realize this. Oh, even after they die they (and we) will damage the environment in some way shape or form. We either will be buried in the ground or will be burned to a crisp.
Even if we go back to the time before oil and electricity, we will still damage the Earth by farming, turning soil and maybe destroying a rain forest or two just to feed the 5 billion of us who walk this planet.
So yes, the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is awful, but no matter what we'll be doing something bad just because of our existance.
Even if we go back to the time before oil and electricity, we will still damage the Earth by farming, turning soil and maybe destroying a rain forest or two just to feed the 5 billion of us who walk this planet.
So yes, the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is awful, but no matter what we'll be doing something bad just because of our existance.
Pellaz
Tigron of Immanion
And here's the effort to put out the fire - a couple of hoses.
I count at least 6 ships spewing water, not including any ships on the other side of the fire-plume.
WTF were they supposed to do with a fire? Get big fans and try to blow it out?
This spill is nowhere NEAR the largest spill in the Gulf. It survived the spill in 1979; it will survive this one, too.
That said, we need to find out why the blowout preventer failed and make sure it doesn't happen again. And that will take care of the drilling rigs WE control...but not the ones owned by China, etc. that are also operating in the Gulf.
If you're looking at who to blame for having to do deepwater drilling in the Gulf.....well, it sure ain't the oil companies.
Force10
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If I knew that answer I'd have done it and probably be very rich. 6+ ships spewing water didn't make a dent.
Not yet anyway...
I hope so, but I fear it's not just the Gulf of Mexico that will be affected.
BP wasn't ready for this sitution, which is my main problem with this.
I understand that, I really do. But these companies have been pushing the limit of their work with no worries of any significant repercussions if a major disaster occurs.
Peace
Pellaz
Tigron of Immanion
According to the AP, probably not ever. In the article I read, even if the spill continues into mid-August, it won't quite equal the size of the 1979 spill.
'Course, it's the location of the spill (i.e., affecting American shorelines) that has everyone here a-twitter.
There may be a way to stop the leak before the relief wells can be completed in August. It will be fascinating if Obama begins to consider it. (Anyone else following the story closely?)
Hmm, who is responsible for the U.S. needing to drill 5,000 feet deep in the Gulf? They are large organizations....but it's not the oil companies.
If you believe that the World's engineers are incapable of producing a more fuel efficient car than 45mpg then I'd imagine you either think that such a feat is clearly impossible with the technology we have available (because we can build a machine that can create a black hole but not a car that can go farther on less gas.) or that no one wants it.
Both of these are horse-shit. Sure you can try and point to the Chevy Volt or the price points, but the simple fact is that the car hasn't changed much in over 30 years. I don't believe its because no one has tried to make a more fuel efficient car.
Diamond45
Terminate Bad Music
Americans have this misconception of diesel cars... fact is that many of them run as clean as gas engines and most get great mileage. A co-worker has a Volkswagen Jetta and he claims 50 MPG highway. Its not noisy at all and doesn't smell like old school diesel vehicles. American car companies should produce more of these for the US market (they already do for the European market)
Pellaz
Tigron of Immanion
Yep, in fact I read last month that GM, I think, may be trying to re-introduce "clean diesels" to the American market.
It'll be a tough sell, though, since diesel fuel prices are now always higher than gasoline. (I remember the good ol' days when it was a lot cheaper....)
BTW, Nailz, I don't disagree with you too much about car technology....but you totally missed where I was going with that......as expected.
