so you have the Native versions then... yes, they work in DP as AU (Audio Unit) under mac OS. they work perfectly in DP.. as do my UAD-1 card and plugs.006 said:
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PowerMac G5 dual 2.0 $2,499.00
Lifetime Memory 1GB DDR400 SDRAM (2) $ 679.94
Universal Audio UAD-1 Project Pak $ 399.97
DigiDesign 002R $1,199.97
MOTU Digital Performer 4.5 $ 499.97
Mackie Control Universal $ 999.97
Mackie HR824a (2) $1,399.88
ProCo MT8XFXM50 50' 8 ch. snake $ 159.97
Josephson C42 matched pair $ 950.00
Soundelux U195 $1,095.00
Pendulum Audio MDP-1 Preamp $2,495.00
Shure PS-6 Popper Stopper $ 26.19
QuikLok MI A-213 mini-boom $ 34.97
QuikLok MI A206BK boom (2) $ 97.94
QuickLok MI RS513 14U Rolling Rack $ 135.97
Furman AR-1215 AC regulator $ 389.97
FMR RNC (2) w/FL NCC-1701 $ 390.00
Neutrik NYS-SPP-L 48pt patch bay $ 94.97
Ace Products APC-12S 10pack (2) $ 49.94
QuikLok MI BS300 Speaker Stand (2) $ 109.94
PreSonus HP4 Headphone Amp 4 ch. $ 99.97
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Total $13,808.53
Still very reasonable with EVERYTHING I need, besides my home-made XLR and TRS cables, so I'm going to leave that last $200 or so for the stuff to make them. I have a noice, not nice but noice, soldering iron already. As long as my lcd display will work with the Mac, then I beleive I'm set. Besides acoustic treatments, and for right now, I could care less about that. It's important, but not at this point. For me anyway. Latah.
~006
Lifetime Memory 1GB DDR400 SDRAM (2) $ 679.94
Universal Audio UAD-1 Project Pak $ 399.97
DigiDesign 002R $1,199.97
MOTU Digital Performer 4.5 $ 499.97
Mackie Control Universal $ 999.97
Mackie HR824a (2) $1,399.88
ProCo MT8XFXM50 50' 8 ch. snake $ 159.97
Josephson C42 matched pair $ 950.00
Soundelux U195 $1,095.00
Pendulum Audio MDP-1 Preamp $2,495.00
Shure PS-6 Popper Stopper $ 26.19
QuikLok MI A-213 mini-boom $ 34.97
QuikLok MI A206BK boom (2) $ 97.94
QuickLok MI RS513 14U Rolling Rack $ 135.97
Furman AR-1215 AC regulator $ 389.97
FMR RNC (2) w/FL NCC-1701 $ 390.00
Neutrik NYS-SPP-L 48pt patch bay $ 94.97
Ace Products APC-12S 10pack (2) $ 49.94
QuikLok MI BS300 Speaker Stand (2) $ 109.94
PreSonus HP4 Headphone Amp 4 ch. $ 99.97
____________
Total $13,808.53
Still very reasonable with EVERYTHING I need, besides my home-made XLR and TRS cables, so I'm going to leave that last $200 or so for the stuff to make them. I have a noice, not nice but noice, soldering iron already. As long as my lcd display will work with the Mac, then I beleive I'm set. Besides acoustic treatments, and for right now, I could care less about that. It's important, but not at this point. For me anyway. Latah.
~006
cool, you must be on a different version of PTLE than i was when i ran into that problem. enjoy!.. you will need to raise the buffer again when you start adding plug-ins for mixdown... and maybe even a bit after you have a lot of tracks going. when you mix though, raise it all the way up again.006 said:
evildonkeymaster
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006 said:
Man I love my HR824's you will not be disappointed. My mixes are much more consistent and translate better to other systems now. I always hated the NS10s, Monitor Ones, Event 20/20, and the other monitors that kinda fall into the same catagory as the HR824s (Don't kill me Andy and James you guys still use NS10s right?) they have that nasty nasal midrange hump and no real accuracy to the bottom end (no real bottom end for that matter).
The HR824s sound smooth flat accurate and wide and when the band comes in to hear the mix you can switch on the super lows (37HZ and below) and the mix thumps. Watch the drummer smile.
Kenny Lee
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Well I'll be damJames Murphy said:
The cats at RME ran that line by me. But then again, they were trying to sell me a unit!!!!!! Those ...sons a bi#c#es 
I grabbed an Apogee PSX-100SE. here it is in this pic! Oh yeah, man I'm Loving my KRANK head!
actually i have HR824's. i used to also have ns-10's, and as soon as i can find a reasonably priced pair i'll buy them again. ns-10's are not supposed to sound "good". they have a very specific purpose and they are the best in that regard. most people who use ns-10's don't ONLY use ns-10's. i will keep my HR824's when i pick up some ns-10's for instance... and Andy aslo has Genelecs.evildonkeymaster said:
evildonkeymaster
Zombie Goats Attack!!!!!!
James Murphy said:
Cool good to know that I am not the only NS10 to HR824 convert. True about the NS10s "not supposed to sound good". I am assuming (please correct me if I am wrong) but the purpose you are refering to is the "small speaker test" which I agree the NS10s are excellent refrence for that purpose. The other thing about the NS10s is so many studios use them and so many pros were raised on them they are comfertable for most engineers to mix into.
I just never got used to mixing into them (partly because I never used them in the studios I apprentaced at) so when I tried to mix with them I had terrible results.
Damn I wish I could afford a pair of Genelecs or Adam's 2.5 As. Would be excellent to have the HR824s, a pair of Adams or Genelecs and the NS10s (just to check for "small speaker compliance").
Man, I would kill for some Genelec 1031a near fields and 1037c mains...but thats wayyyy later on. Anyway, any more ideas for my list of crap? Lol. Latah.
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well, i'm not a "convert".. i had both and used both, still would if mine hadn't been stolen, and will again if i can find a decent set. i'm looking for some NS-10's, not the later NS-10M's, so if anyone has a line on some let me know.evildonkeymaster said:
most people don't like the sound of ns-10's because they are shy in the low end, they have a sharp boost in response around 1.5k, and also there is not the usual drop in response between 2k and 2.5k from the crossover point as in many nearfeilds. by most people i mean home and hobby recordists who unknowingly pick up an unmodified set for their home rigs because they heard "it's what the pros use", or they saw it in every pic of pro studios they have ever seen. pro studios though, have their ns-10's modified, or do it themselves... the modification fills out the lows a bit and mostly eliminates the peak at 1.5k, leaving a much flatter response that doesn't tire the ears like the unmodified ones will do after a time. here's a link to a schematic of the common ns-10 mod.
evildonkeymaster
Zombie Goats Attack!!!!!!
James Murphy said:
Kick ass info James. Like I said I never used a pair myself in any of the studios I apprentanced in. The one studio I heard them at they must have been unmodified. We (producer that owned the studio I was with) were tracking the drums for a project at a different studio then ours because they had a great drum room (turned out to be a really crappy drum room ha ha) but they had NS10s as their main reference and some old school JBLs (they sounded great but not flat) and I hated working with those NS10s when we brought the drums back to are studio they tracks sounded really shitty and we ended up retracking in our studio any way ha ha. So that experince turned me against the NS10s. I would love to hear a modified pair. The orignals had a special woofer filler right? Different than the NS10Ms right? Anyway thanks for the info and the schematic. So I guess I am not really a "convet" (my own term ha ha) either, I never really gave them a chance.
unsilpauly
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hey there, if you are gonna use dp4 then why wouldnt you go with a 828mk11? with a digi 002 rack you dont get as many inputs as an 828 and the 828 is only 750.00usd and it can be used as a stand alone digital mixer. its a pretty sweet unit in my experience. plus right outta the box you can record 10 audio ins as opposed to eight. and as far as the mackie control goes ive heard it is really killer with dp4. i just got the behringer fader pack($200.00usd) and so far with it set in the mackie mode it is working good for most things. i just got it though so i still have to figure some things out(as with anything). if i had the $1000.00 to get a control surface, i would have gotten the mackie-universal though. but the behringer in the hui emulation mode should work fine. good luck006 said:
I will be using Digital Performer just to get more tracks out of ProTools. Pretty much Digital Performer will be my insurance in case I ever need more than 32 tracks. I'm pretty confident that I won't need more than 10-12 tracks though, but again, just in case. It will most likely see more MIDI action than recording action, as I will be getting it to replace Cubase SX. I use Cubase SX right now to do all of my Drumkit From Hell drums in, and I don't feel like dropping the $700 or whatever for the Mac version of SX, so DP it is, 
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Besides all that, MOTU interfaces just don't impress me. Call me crazy. Latah.
~006
. Besides all that, MOTU interfaces just don't impress me. Call me crazy. Latah.
~006
unsilpauly
Member
youre crazy(lol). they do way more than the digi. but anyway gotta go with what you like. so have fun man and good luck006 said:I will be using Digital Performer just to get more tracks out of ProTools. Pretty much Digital Performer will be my insurance in case I ever need more than 32 tracks. I'm pretty confident that I won't need more than 10-12 tracks though, but again, just in case. It will most likely see more MIDI action than recording action, as I will be getting it to replace Cubase SX. I use Cubase SX right now to do all of my Drumkit From Hell drums in, and I don't feel like dropping the $700 or whatever for the Mac version of SX, so DP it is,
Besides all that, MOTU interfaces just don't impress me. Call me crazy. Latah.
~006
yeah, i can totally see why you wouldnt be impressed with an interface (motu 828 mkII) that has the same converters, more ins an outs, more functionality across the board, and is less expensive than a Digi 002R... yep, makes sense to me.006 said:I will be using Digital Performer just to get more tracks out of ProTools. Pretty much Digital Performer will be my insurance in case I ever need more than 32 tracks. I'm pretty confident that I won't need more than 10-12 tracks though, but again, just in case. It will most likely see more MIDI action than recording action, as I will be getting it to replace Cubase SX. I use Cubase SX right now to do all of my Drumkit From Hell drums in, and I don't feel like dropping the $700 or whatever for the Mac version of SX, so DP it is,
Besides all that, MOTU interfaces just don't impress me. Call me crazy. Latah.
~006
... or maybe it's because the 002R looks "neater".
lol... well, if you have to use PT, then the 002 is the way you should go since PT will only work with digi's own interfaces... but if you are seriously more impressed with the 002R's functionality and quality over the MOTU 828mkII then you are either trying to justify your choice or you are "special".
heh heh heh
unsilpauly
Member
right on james!James Murphy said:yeah, i can totally see why you wouldnt be impressed with an interface (motu 828 mkII) that has the same converters, more ins an outs, more functionality across the board, and is less expensive than a Digi 002R... yep, makes sense to me.
... or maybe it's because the 002R looks "neater".
lol... well, if you have to use PT, then the 002 is the way you should go since PT will only work with digi's own interfaces... but if you are seriously more impressed with the 002R's functionality and quality over the MOTU 828mkII then you are either trying to justify your choice or you are "special".
heh heh heh