What really happened to the Pentagon on 9/11??
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mrthrax
riffer madness
its interesting,i guess there will always be conspiracy theories,i could understand the government not wanting the whole world to see the ins and outs of one of the most important fixtures on the planet,unless u seen it for yourself u will never know
DarbysDad
Timmy! Timmy!!! Timmy!!!
I had to click this link a sceond time this afternoon to get what was going when I saw a different charity pop up?
Where did this link come from?
Where did this link come from?
This flash movie has caused many a heated thread on different message boards, so I'll say this.
Six months ago, if you tried to convince me of 9/11 being anything but evil Muslims hijacking airliners and crashing them, I would not listen to you and think you were a tin-foil hat wearing kook. These past few months I've been immersed in all the 9/11 conspiracy theories, researching both sides. Those who claim to have evidence and those who claim to debunk it. Even with all the harder to swallow theories aside, there's enough info out there to make the hair on your neck stand up. My worldview and stance on politics has completely changed because of this. One flash movie, or one theory will not change one's mind. It took a while for me to let all the info sink in and separate the concrete from the flimsy. It would be well worth everyone's time to look into these issues further.
Six months ago, if you tried to convince me of 9/11 being anything but evil Muslims hijacking airliners and crashing them, I would not listen to you and think you were a tin-foil hat wearing kook. These past few months I've been immersed in all the 9/11 conspiracy theories, researching both sides. Those who claim to have evidence and those who claim to debunk it. Even with all the harder to swallow theories aside, there's enough info out there to make the hair on your neck stand up. My worldview and stance on politics has completely changed because of this. One flash movie, or one theory will not change one's mind. It took a while for me to let all the info sink in and separate the concrete from the flimsy. It would be well worth everyone's time to look into these issues further.
Ragamuffin
Why yes, I do hate you
good post ragamuffin.....man i just hate it when someone brings facts into an argument/ theory and ruins my left-wing conspiracy theories.
Ragamuffin
Why yes, I do hate you
Sorry.
How bout the one where George Bush and John Kerry are both Skull & Bones, and related, so it doesn't matter who gets elected.
How bout the one where George Bush and John Kerry are both Skull & Bones, and related, so it doesn't matter who gets elected.
Deliverance666
I need money...
What if the government actually planned the attacks on 9/11 for a reason to go into Iraq for oil? We found no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq... I dunno just a thought. I may be stupid... don't bash me too much.
Sigh, I guess I'll have to be that guy...
I don't have any answers for what really happened, all I have is unanswered questions...
Snopes:
If it hit the ground where's the damage on the lawn?
http://serendipity.li/wot/pent04.jpg
http://serendipity.li/wot/pentagon_lawn.jpg
Snopes:
Immediately after Flight 77 smashed into the Pentagon, the impact was obscured by a huge fireball, explosions, fire, smoke, and water from firefighting efforts. Within a half hour, the upper stories of the building collapsed, thereby permanently obscuring the impact site. It simply wasn't possible for photographs to capture a clear view of the impact site during that brief interval between the crash and the collapse.
Impact:
http://serendipity.li/wot/pentagonhole.jpg
The biggest issue for me is that minutes after the attack they seized security camera footage from a gas station and hotel that would have shown the impact. This footage could shut me and every other conspiracy theorist up. Why haven't they released it? If your reply is "security reasons" what on those tapes would be a bigger security breach than what we saw on those five frames the Pentagon released? Where is the 757 in that footage?
How did a hijacked airliner penetrate the most protected airspace in the country almost an hour after the WTC was hit?
I don't have any answers for what really happened, all I have is unanswered questions...
Snopes:
[size=-1]2) Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground floor of this building?
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As eyewitnesses described and photographs demonstrate, the hijacked airliner dived so low as it approached the Pentagon that it actually hit the ground first, thereby dissipating much of the energy that might otherwise have caused more extensive damage to the building; nonetheless, as described by The New York Times, the plane still hit not "just the ground floor" but between the first and second floors: [/size]
If it hit the ground where's the damage on the lawn?
http://serendipity.li/wot/pent04.jpg
http://serendipity.li/wot/pentagon_lawn.jpg
Snopes:
Immediately after Flight 77 smashed into the Pentagon, the impact was obscured by a huge fireball, explosions, fire, smoke, and water from firefighting efforts. Within a half hour, the upper stories of the building collapsed, thereby permanently obscuring the impact site. It simply wasn't possible for photographs to capture a clear view of the impact site during that brief interval between the crash and the collapse.
Impact:
http://serendipity.li/wot/pentagonhole.jpg
The biggest issue for me is that minutes after the attack they seized security camera footage from a gas station and hotel that would have shown the impact. This footage could shut me and every other conspiracy theorist up. Why haven't they released it? If your reply is "security reasons" what on those tapes would be a bigger security breach than what we saw on those five frames the Pentagon released? Where is the 757 in that footage?
How did a hijacked airliner penetrate the most protected airspace in the country almost an hour after the WTC was hit?
mrthrax
riffer madness
why cant u people except that the bad guys got u,quit blaming the govenment yes its fucked that they didnt join the dots but who would have seriously thought they could pull it off,they tried the same shit when bali got bombed and said govenmment had details of what was going to happen.
lets hope we dont get caught out again,thats the most important thing govenment can learn.
lets hope we dont get caught out again,thats the most important thing govenment can learn.
Ragamuffin
Why yes, I do hate you
How did a hijacked airliner penetrate the most protected airspace in the country almost an hour after the WTC was hit?
Because everything was hectic. Jets were being scrambled all over the place and actually just missed that one to be able to take it down.
And the government has a history of yanking that kind of security footage and not releasing it, even if it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt their explinations.
Because everything was hectic. Jets were being scrambled all over the place and actually just missed that one to be able to take it down.
And the government has a history of yanking that kind of security footage and not releasing it, even if it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt their explinations.
Where were all the fighter jets?Ragamuffin said:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a630vigilantguardian
What is the purpose of holding those videos? Why did they release the footage that didn't show a plane instead of releasing the gas station or hotel videos? Why haven't they released the OKC bombing tapes that show John Doe #2?
This is the problem when discussing touchy issues like these. For every explanation two questions arise, for those two explanations four questions arise, it's a never ending circle. I don't think we're going to get anywhere on an Anthrax board, but I hope you at least look into the possibility that there's more to the story. It takes a lot of searching and reading.
mrthrax
riffer madness
Inside Out
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i've been absent on this thread but im ready top state my views, i think it was an attack by the killer tomatoes, face it they all want us dead, and as we have seen they are capable of doing such things, it was them i know it, and even as i sit here eating leftover spaghetti i cant help but wonder, is this poison, see what they have done to our nation. we cant let them get away with it.
DarbysDad
Timmy! Timmy!!! Timmy!!!
:Spin: anyway I was just tripping on how the donation site asked for donations to different charities everytime you used the link, then a debate Consirpacy about theories. Maybe I'll continue to vote and just keep my head in the ground. 
All I know is the Apathy Can Never Solve.
All I know is the Apathy Can Never Solve.
One last post before I give up.
Ok, I went about this the wrong way. Forget the flash movie, forget conspiracy theories. Clear your mind about this whole issue.
This article is probably the best article I have read about the Pentagon controversy. Every angle you could imagine is covered - eye witness acounts, photographs of debri, everything that Snopes mentions and much more. No matter what your stance is on this issue I think this is a must read. And before anyone disregards this link before reading, the author believes Flight 77 DID hit the Pentagon. Pack a lunch, this is loooooong but well worth it. Any comments or responses are encouraged.
http://www.freedom-force.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=burningquestions&refpage=issues
Ok, I went about this the wrong way. Forget the flash movie, forget conspiracy theories. Clear your mind about this whole issue.
This article is probably the best article I have read about the Pentagon controversy. Every angle you could imagine is covered - eye witness acounts, photographs of debri, everything that Snopes mentions and much more. No matter what your stance is on this issue I think this is a must read. And before anyone disregards this link before reading, the author believes Flight 77 DID hit the Pentagon. Pack a lunch, this is loooooong but well worth it. Any comments or responses are encouraged.
http://www.freedom-force.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=burningquestions&refpage=issues
remington69
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