Which untimely death took the most away from the metal/rock world?

[Unfaithfully Metalhead]

I thought Randy was a huge innovator. He was such an innovator on guitar..... but he was v-e-r-y sloppy.
Jimmy----- see above.

::: shaves his hair and his eyebrows off for saying that about those two lol :::: Jimmy is sloppy at times but you forget that was the 70's not the 80's and beyond where perfect technique had to be perfect... Jimmy still had some of the greatest riffs of all time and I would prefer his solo's to anyone elses who is a "technical" player... on Zep songs.... as for Randy.. I never thought he was sloppy at all.... not for that time (1980-3)... just listening to the Tribute album tells me he was a very accurate and clean player with enough speed to his solos but also knew when to hold back for the sake of the song and not wank off like Vai , Malsteen and other players.....

 

[kittybeast]

http://www.av1611.org/rockdead.html

It looks like a religious based site, as it speaks of God and choices. But the list of R-n-R deaths is quite long.

I haven't chosen yet as each of those listed has touched me with their music and there are those that I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when the world stopped for a moment after hearing of their death.

Honorable mentions to all who died some young, some tragic, some by thier own hands. I'd sure like to see these guys play again.... Carl Albert (VR), Steve Clark (Def Leppard), Cozy Powell (Rainbow & Whitesnake) and Stevie Ray Vaughan.

I for one would have liked to have heard what Jimi Hendrix would have been doing. Having died at a very young age and being such a virtuoso it makes me wonder what other influences he would have had on the music scene of the 70's.

 

[SavaRon]

Wow, I was just checking that site out KB. What a list! Where the hell was I? I didn't know Ray Gillian died in 1993 of AIDS????? I usually am pretty up to date with that kind of thing and don't recall ever hearing he died. He was a great singer.

 

[Wheezer]

That's a pretty cool site, actually. They missed Dave Pritchard. The conclusions they're trying to draw are pretty ridiculous. If they broke it down into percentages of all Rock musicians versus percentages of the general public that died in a similar manner then they might have something. It's a fast life and I'm pretty sure the numbers would still show what they're after. I'm just not particularly fond of the judgemental attitude of the whole thing. They prolly ought to compile a list of Hollywood types too.

It's funny that they include John Denver in the list. Prolly thanks to his environmental views. That and the fact that he did such a good job testifying against the PMRC. He sang the national anthem at the Broncs' Monday nighter less than a week before he died. I was there and it was surreal when we found out the following Sunday. The fact that he crashed into Monterey Bay only added to it. That's one of my favorite places on the face of the planet.

I for one would have liked to have heard what Jimi Hendrix would have been doing. Having died at a very young age and being such a virtuoso it makes me wonder what other influences he would have had on the music scene of the 70's.

Yeah, he's the one that gets me too. And Janis Joplin. Of course they might have gotten sick to their stomachs over what the music biz has become.

 

[Wyvern]

That's a pretty cool site, actually. They missed Dave Pritchard.

I forgot about Dave

. I wonder if he wouldný passed away if AS would have ever took a hiatus after SOS and therefore if ever John Bush would have joint Anthrax.

Even so if Dave would still be alive may had lure John quickier back to AS. Alas as always is just speculation.

NP: Ayreon - 'Another Time, Another Space'

 

[carnut]

Kurt Cobain ..... NOT !!!

 

[Jesse Pohjalainen]

To me its dimebag without a doubt...even though he isn't on your list

 

[The Winnipeg Warrior]

Gar Samuelsson

 

[Fangface]

For those into thrash/death :

http://www.voicesfromthedarkside.de/rip.htm

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

I voted Cliff Burton. His death was the beginning of the end for the greatest thrash metal band ever. And he never would have allowed them to become what they have.

 

[Unfaithfully Metalhead]

Gar Samuelsson

he died? ....

 

[Unfaithfully Metalhead]

Quorthon of Bathory

yeah his death was tragic... but he did enough albums for us to enjoy and a quite range of music... BM , VM etc... so i wouldnt of voted for him... Randy and Cliff definetly should get the most votes because of what Metallica became after Cliff's death and Ozzy as well though Ozzy put out decent albums after RR's death though perhaps he wouldnt be considered a joke now or have his wife control him as much if RR was alive or have that dreadful guitarist Zakk in the band neither lol ....

 

[Bryant]

::: shaves his hair and his eyebrows off for saying that about those two lol :::: Jimmy is sloppy at times but you forget that was the 70's not the 80's and beyond where perfect technique had to be perfect... Jimmy still had some of the greatest riffs of all time and I would prefer his solo's to anyone elses who is a "technical" player... on Zep songs.... as for Randy.. I never thought he was sloppy at all.... not for that time (1980-3)... just listening to the Tribute album tells me he was a very accurate and clean player with enough speed to his solos but also knew when to hold back for the sake of the song and not wank off like Vai , Malsteen and other players.....

I really respect Jimi and Randy. I was not knocking the innovations they made and I do love their playing, but they were both sloppy. As far as Jimi not being a "technical" player, I disagree 100%, for his time, he was quite the technician. One of the reasons both Jimi AND Randy were sloppy is because they both played at the very extremes of their abilities. Had they not done that, they would not have been the innovators they were....... so in essence "sloppy" is not such a bad thing when talking about them. However, though I still enjoy listening to them, I can't do it in large doses, due to that. I come from the "German precision" school of guitar. Phrasing, note selection, timing and playing notes cleanly are at the very top of my list as a player. Those attributes weren't Jimi nor Randy's forte'. That doesn't take away their accomplishments nor my respect for them, but it doesn't put them at the top of my list of favorites either.


Bryant

 

[Bryant]

AND Darrell Abbott Hate him as much as you want but his death was Huge

Absolutely. Abbott's fanbase as a guitarist went well beyond thrash listeners. The last true guitar "God" might have been Yngwie or possibly Vai. The last time I recall guitarists widespread just absolutely with their nose to the grindstone and tabs trying to figure out how to play a certain guitarist's work was YJM. The guitar God faded out in the mid-80's and Pantera wasn't well known then. I did see a resurgence of guitarists really picking apart Pantera stuff after CFH though. I don't know where Darrell was in his career as a musician, but he might have had much more to offer.


Bryant

 

[Bryant]

AND Darrell Abbott Hate him as much as you want but his death was Huge

Absolutely. Abbott's fanbase as a guitarist went well beyond thrash listeners. The last true guitar "God" might have been Yngwie or possibly Vai. The last time I recall guitarists widespread just absolutely with their nose to the grindstone and tabs trying to figure out how to play a certain guitarist's work was YJM. The guitar God faded out in the mid-80's and Pantera wasn't well known then. I did see a resurgence of guitarists really picking apart Pantera stuff after CFH though. I don't know where Darrell was in his career as a musician, but he might have had much more to offer.


Bryant

 

[USMC0341]

I think Cliff Burton's death impacted the direction Metallica eventually went in. There are so many that have affected things...my top 3, in no particular order would be:

1) Cliff Burton
2) Randy Rhoades
3) Dimebag Darrel

That's my 2 cents...

 

[Walter_Langkowski]

Wow, I was just checking that site out KB. What a list! Where the hell was I? I didn't know Ray Gillian died in 1993 of AIDS????? I usually am pretty up to date with that kind of thing and don't recall ever hearing he died. He was a great singer.

Damn dude, I thought every hard-rocker knew that one! Not trying to be rude or anything, it's just that I read Metal Edge a lot then and they covered it when it happened. His last project was that band Sun Red Sun with Mike Inez (ex-Alice In Chains) on bass guitar. And I think it was late 1994 or so. He had a great voice for what he did.