"wonderful" news from Gorgoroth.

[Dead_Lioness]

"Norwegian black metal band Gorgoroth staged a special concert that made Janet Jackson's breast-baring look like nursery school antics and left Catholic Poland outraged. A police investigation has begun after a show that included dozens of sheep heads on stakes, a literal blood bath and a naked, crucified woman, newspaper VG reports."




http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article.jhtml?articleID=723414

 

[skeptik]

Mayhem's been using pig's heads on stakes for years, and other bands have done more extreme things. I guess now that Gorgoroth is starting to get at least a bit of attention, people are taking notice.

 

[Larf03]

The question is ...why?

I don't like gorgoroth... I don't know anyone who does... Is their music so lame they have to stage a big gory show to attract attention?

COme on... this kind of display is what I would expect from cradle of filth because it's both artificial and immature... Violence isn't what you see... it's what's there but can't see...

They suck ...I hope they get what they diserve...

*ATTENTION*
My opinion does not have anything to do with my religious belief nor my taste in music... Fact: I don't like their music nor do I like most black metal ... But this kind of scenery is to bands what bullying is to insecure teenagers... Fuck them and fuck them bad! I never seen Chuck Billy impale a virgin nun on his microphone stand... I've never heard of Kerry King lacerating a sheep's body with the edges of his Warlock... I've never heard of Bobby Blitz spitting blood either... yet theirs were the best shows of my life and fuck any shows that rely on something else than music!

 

[Hell Mike]

Bands who use that kind of scenery does not wish to impress insecure teenagers, they want a stage show that matches the music; bloody, disgusting and violent. Gorgoroth are not the first to something of the kind, true, but I don't know any other band who has done it risking a two-year prison sentence.

I think it was Mayhem (I could very well be wrong) that announced big plans of chainsawing a goat on stage, and in the early days Mayhem did absolutely not wish to attract those 'insecure teenagers'. I don't think they ever did it though, I'm guessing mainly because noone wants to be locked up for such a little prank.

 

[mysilentgrave]

all fair points, but seeing blitz spit blood, or chuck nailing the virgin, or kerry carving an ornamental wedding present out of a single piece of wood with his spikes would have been a sight to see.

and yes, the animals heads have been done b4: ministry did it 12 or so years ago on kefala tour, mayhem certainly have; but it is not something widely done either then or now (well, i can only think of two instances).

but...this was for the DVD (pleez let it happen), so if you're a fan of the band then you want a good stageshow to pull in the figures. o/wise you're buying a dvd with a bunch of muckencrusted noisy bastards wandering about a stage - at leats this gives it a more visual presentation. gorgoroth have been around for several years, and have just brought out their sixth cd. everything sounds better with each album.

i was fortunate to catch them back in 98 @ Wacken and they were astounding.

but as you rightly point out, black metal isn't for everyone, yes they used the skulls blood barbedwire and naked chicks for effect, but people take it too seriously.

personally, i would have loved to have been there. it would have been a larf.

at the end of the day, they are just guys who perform on stage. did armored saint or warlord get slammed for brandishing swords on stage (and oh so obviously inciting muderous acts? JOKE!!)? no.

and as for the part of "fuck any shows that rely on something else than music!", then please my friend - go to a GWAR show and have your mind altered!

 

[mysilentgrave]

yes indeed sorath - chainsaw gutfuck is a classic.

if anyone out there has read 'Lords Of Chaos' then they will know of the mindset of many Norwegians, and it is very different to that of the 'western' world.

truly remarkable.

 

[Hell Mike]

I wouldn't say the stage extras (skulls, blood, barbwire etc) is just an 'image' either, be it directed at hardcore black metal fans or others, more to add an extra spice to the live shows which can't be on records, see the gore, death and mutilation and smell the blood.

The reason for many bands (or bands outside of the black metal genre, though it probably would fit nicely on many death metal concerts as well) is that thrash in general for an example isn't about blood, fire and death, but violence, agression and metal thrashing madness which all can be experienced in the pit.

 

[mysilentgrave]

yep, u r right.

black metal is as much about the atmosphere as anything else.

thrash music + gigs are ace; like Sorath says: its all about the pit, just getting stuck in and fuckin shit up.

black metal is a more in-depth beast. it ranges from arcturus & ulver, thru enslaved, immortal, all the way to dark funeral and marduk.
it is as much about the atmosphere...creating a prescence is probly the best way i could describe it.

 

[JimmyPL]

Heh in Polish media there was a real Storm bout this. They talking about tis "event" in news and what is realy shame in our society the blame will go for everyone that can be described by word metalfan, what is more all metal bands will be equalized I mean they all will be satanic psychos just because that some totally fucked up band has done fucked up show. So it is a shame. But on the other hand Gorgoroth was saying 2 weeks before concert about, let`s called this, scenery.

I think they will be punished for me that show was fucked up. Gorgoroth SARS

 

[Dead_Lioness]

I love black metal, always have, always will. Among my cds you can find classic black metal near some real shitty underground bands (which I like..) and I love some of the “image” that comes with the music, more “find it amusing”
That’s why I opened that thread “Quotes that made the Norwegian black metal” (if anyone remembers)
Those black metal bands play great music, and their image amuses me, in the good way of course.

Image, comes with the music.
Just like Iron Maiden have a 3-feet Eddie walking on stage, and Helloween have their huge pumpkin on stage,
That’s how black metal bands do it themselves… huge pentagrams, chicks on crosses… what ever gets it going…

However….
I absolutely do not agree with killing animals, just for the “show”.
I may sound like a hypocrite since I eat meat, and someone kills a cow just to make my lunch.
but still… if its ok to cut a sheep on stage, then whats next? Rape a girl ? burn cats ?
and to be honest- the “blood” effect has grown old long time ago.
Yeah, when Mayhem did it at the early 90’s is was shocking and unusual. it was a part of the music itself- that meant to shock the listener and to create the whole “satanic” atmosphere, but I don’t find it amusing anymore…

I read Lord Of Chaos,a nd I have several books on that subject.
I wish bands could put that blood shit in the history…
There are many other things that can make you look “satanic…”





And on another note: satan is lame…
He is a Christian god, don’t forget that

 

[Super Mahrio]

Put a sock in it, ON!

anyway, shit happens..people do stupid crap in order to put on a show..when i go to shows, i dont go for cinematics, i go for the music...oh well....im not one for black metal shows..i say if they wanna be dumb and do crazy illegal shit on stage, who am i to say they cant, ja?

 

[Insania]

...when i go to shows, i dont go for cinematics, i go for the music...

The last show that had theatrics, King Diamond in San Jose, was excellent. I can't believe you don't go to see hair, leather, and maybe, on occasion, someone chainsawing a prostitute. My 7 year old hacked one up on GTA the other night...ain't no big deal, eh?

Granted, at most shows I'm so drunk that I can't see anyway, can only hear...

 

[soulflypl]

i don't listen to black metal and i am not familiar with this part of metal scene - just not my cup of tea. But i don't mind people like it (the music).

But chainsawing a goat - or sheep heads on stakes ???

That is not something i would find necessary to witness during metalgig.
In fact - if i had been there i would've problably found those guys desperate in their attempts to catch someone's attention - and i think i would just leave.

The worse part of the story is what Jimmy wrote - now more people in Poland will associate metal music with such "extraordinary"/"sick" (choose the one that suits you) shows - and it won't help metal in Poland.

 

[Officer Nice]

The last show that had theatrics, King Diamond in San Jose, was excellent. I can't believe you don't go to see hair, leather, and maybe, on occasion, someone chainsawing a prostitute. My 7 year old hacked one up on GTA the other night...ain't no big deal, eh?

Granted, at most shows I'm so drunk that I can't see anyway, can only hear...

Obviously I missed that, being where I am. Where did he play in SJ?

Did the King have his stage stuff too? The fog and the gates and the
candles and stuff?

Did you see Gwar the last time they came around and they decapitated
OJ Simpson and disembowled Jerry Garcia on stage? Awesome.

 

[soulflypl]

BTW - it's totally OT but i can't help it!!!

My twins had their first birthday today!!!))

 

[Testament Legions]

OH NOOO...

Couldn't this have been taken care of privately???

 

[Super Mahrio]

heh...ON, excuse me if i dont share your "american" views....asshole!
anyway, some cinematics are fun but i dont really like going to shows where people rely on that alone for their talent...you'll never see me at a Marilyn Manson show..
besides, why cant i just ignore something? is it wrong to not want to give a rats ass about what some band does on stage? its their act, so fucking what! I mean i dont care if say Manson goes on stage and has nude dancers or if Dani Filth sodomizes something on stage...i mean, thats just their act...thats not being mindless, thats just realizing what the live music industry is...Some people really are into seeing a bunch of weird sick twisted illegal crap on stage, i for one dont care for that...Black metallers go on there and just do that stuff because they want to add to their atmosphere...i really dont think less of them because they do it, especially if their music is good to begin with...