Wouldn't it be a joy to record a drummer like Eloy Casagrande from Sepultura?

Apr 14, 2010
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man that dude hits harder than any drummer I've ever seen before.
he makes it sound so good. even though he bashes the cymbals as well
the way he attacks those drums... must be great to record him. what do you think?

however, I can't imagine being in the same room with him without good hearing protection.:erk:

here's the video:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1nw_yY1_AU&feature=g-u-u&context=G23535d0FUAAAAAAAIAA]Eloy Casagrande[/ame]
 
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Yeah maybe but the best drum sounds i've gotten comes from players that may not be the best but after sampling enhancement editing etc it often sounds better then those that are way more technical advanced but hits the drums like a madman. The best drummers hit the snare and toms like a man and hits the cymbals medium hard.
 
I don't really get the impression he hits extremely hard. Compare it to this guy and you'll understand why:



At about 1:25 I have no choice but bounce in my chair ...
 
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Also Sepultura guy is awesome and their recent output has been pretty good, but they just need to call the band something else, No Max or Igor for how many years now? Andreas is cool but he is not Sep to me.
 
The guy is good but "Sepultura" is a joke without Max and Igor,max was also the basic composer of the band..basically 90% of the riffs.
The biggest joke is paulo who recorded first time on Roots..haha unbelievable bullshit
 
Are we seriously discussing the ability of a drum prodigy? The guy played the modern drummer festival when he was 12..come on!
First check that video. Offcourse he's bashing here, it's METAL!

Their previous drummer Jean Dollabella also was a beast! Watched him standing next to the drumriser during soundcheck when we played a show with Sepultura last year. He also knew how to hit the drums hard, in a good way. He had this thick Zildjian Icebell, the whole think was bended upto a point where it looked like someone hitted it with a hammer.

His left tom set up is fucking weird.

Sepultura has some tribal shit going on. The big floor is tuned really, really low, and the small tom is tuned really high.
 
I don't really get the impression he hits extremely hard. Compare it to this guy and you'll understand why:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeYUQqDhL9E

At about 1:25 I have no choice but bounce in my chair ...

Sure this Mars Volta guy hits like a mo'fo (somebody (you ?) posted that video in an earlier thread about beastly drummers btw), but Eloy still hits pretty hard. They're playing way different genres anyway.

This is no "who hits the hardest" contest by the way :)

And about the "Sepultura is a joke without Max and Igor", let's put that aside gentlemen. It's like bashing your brother's ex-wife who got remaried and is doing great, when your brother's life has turned to shit.

Personally, i'm glad they kept the band going, they kicked my ass when is saw them live in the past few years, and the new drummers they've had besides Igor are incredible.

Doesn't mean i don't consider the Max and Igor days the peak of this band.
 
History is History.Everyone who respects History does not approve the name Sepultura without their original members/composers.
Reminds me of those skopians trying to steal "Macedonia" From the Greeks haha
Max and Igor are Sepultura.Not a former roadie and a sloppy bass player
cheers from the UK
 
History is History.Everyone who respects History does not approve the name Sepultura without their original members/composers.
Reminds me of those skopians trying to steal "Macedonia" From the Greeks haha
Max and Igor are Sepultura.Not a former roadie and a sloppy bass player
cheers from the UK

the "former roadie" as you call him has become a huge part of the band's legendary status IMO

As much as i love the Cavalera bros, i have nothing but mad respect for Kisser. He's one of my heroes.
 
First of all he is in fact a former roadie,so the " " are useless.
Secondly of course he is,but not important as max and igor,he is not the composer or the founding member.
so it's the easiest way to continue the "band" in order to pay the bills and have enough money from the suckers that hear Nation or Dante etc.
CC and Soulfly destroys this cover band,because andreas is trying to copy max's riffing style,while max creates what is natural to him.Just put the best tracks from this cover band compared to CC or soufly..
Finally no one wants to see a reunion with paulo on bass lol,worst player ever,plus his stage presence is the worst.
 
First of all he is in fact a former roadie,so the " " are useless.
Secondly of course he is,but not important as max and igor,he is not the composer or the founding member.
so it's the easiest way to continue the "band" in order to pay the bills and have enough money from the suckers that hear Nation or Dante etc.
CC and Soulfly destroys this cover band,because andreas is trying to copy max's riffing style,while max creates what is natural to him.Just put the best tracks from this cover band compared to CC or soufly..
Finally no one wants to see a reunion with paulo on bass lol,worst player ever,plus his stage presence is the worst.

I know he was their actual former roadie. Dude i got a Sepultura biography for x-mas when i was a kid so i know my Sepultura history, thanks.
I put the brackets because you seem to have a huge contempt for the guy ("he was just the cleaning guy..." kind of), as if he slept with your girlfriend or something. And frankly i don't see how being a former roadie can be wrong for the guy... Before the band broke through, the Cavalera brothers were just guys playing in some metal band you know.

As a longtime Sepultura fan i have to tell you this :

-the only albums without Kisser were the first two albums "morbid visions" and "bestial devastation"... Seriously do you think people think of those two albums when one mentions Sepultura ? Or is it more about Beneath The Remains/Arise/Chaos AD/Roots, ? More the latter actually, in which Kisser was in the band so how can you say the Sepultura from that era was only the Cavalera brothers ? Were you writing with them and touring with them ?
If it was only for the Cavaleras, i guess the Cavalera Conspiracy was supposed to sound awesome, but guess what ? It didn't ! (see my next point)

-i think you must be into the 1% group of Sepultura fans who actually prefer Soulfly and CC to the post-Max Sepultura...
Funny you mention "Nation", i think it shits all over any Soulfly/CC album really. And i'm not even anti-Soulfly/CC, i just think there is some good stuff here and there, but mostly average/sub-par/cookie cutter/rehashed stuff for the rest.
And this is coming from somebody who had Max Cavalera posters on his bedroom walls when he was a teenager, and who bought every edition available for the first two Soulfly albums.
 
That drummer is a BAD ASS. Never got too much into the new Sepultura, but I've always been more of a casual fan anyway. Chaos AD and Roots were my only real purchases from them.

And holy hell that dude from Mars Volta hits HARD. I was about to say I've never seen anyone hit harder than Mario from Gojira, but damn, that guy mangles his kit.
 
People crying over Sepultura being a cover band have to get the fuck over it. Kisser and Paulo have been in the band forever, tons of bands have been through the same thing, quit whining and enjoy music from all bands.

P.s. Soulfly has some ok songs, CC sucks donkey balls and Nation is a killer album.