Kick mic placement...

[scorpio01169]

if you're gonna do a combo mic on the kick.....D6 3 to 4 inches away from batter....and yamaha subkick placed in front. the right blend of those two and you have your dream sound right there. you'll never trigger again.

 

[everybody's x]

yea, meant resonant... sorry... duh. workin' too many hours these days..

been there dude!


I always keep the D6 inside a few inches from the beater, until read Oz's guide recently and for the last two projects I have put it just inside the resonant head. The d6 doesn't seem to be nearly as picky about placement, it pretty much sounds great however you set it up.

 

[Seizure.]

I asked Steven Slate a bunch of questions about this, some/most of it has now allready been said here but here you go anyway!

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/343380-drummicing-question-mr-slate.html

 

[schust]

I asked Steven Slate a bunch of questions about this, some/most of it has now allready been said here but here you go anyway!

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/343380-drummicing-question-mr-slate.html

interesting.. thanks for sharing that. he makes some really good points (he is the master, afterall...)

i've heard of the "woofer mic" before. i simulate that with a send from the kick to MDA's subsynth in my DAW. sounds good, although i'm sure not as good as the real deal he's using. i also agree 100% with his statement about "the bleed of the snare in the overheads sounds good". i've only been recording drums for about a year now, but that keeps coming up in the mix as one of the truly important aspects. time spent up front before tracking to get this right adds a lot in the end, imo. i haven't been happy with my 57 on the snare either. may just try the i5 one of these days.

one topic i haven't seen too much about in this thread is what people are using to pad the inside of the kick. anyone care to share? i've found that can make a pretty big difference too - especially the boom or thud. I believe Oz addresses this as well. i've tried everything from blankets to pillows. ended up with a couch pillow (of which my wife's still looking for...). it's pretty dense and lays nicely in the bottom curve of the drum. sometimes i wonder, though, it it isn't "too" dense and absorbing some of that nice "boom".

 

[kaomao]

to get this sound : http://www.blacksandband.com/Stuff/The_Best_Kick_On_Earth.wav
put the mic as other have said (inside the hole, a few inches back from the skin angled so it points at the beater) and use a d6!
on this page all the info about my sample : http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/300039-kick-ya-all.html

 

[Pete The Elite]

The best sound ive got so far using a d112 is by putting the mic as close to the beater as possible, angled slightly upright, i am eager to try and an audix 6 mic though and see the difference.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

The best sound ive got so far using a d112 is by putting the mic as close to the beater as possible, angled slightly upright, i am eager to try and an audix 6 mic though and see the difference.

I'm going to go ahead and try this the next time I track since I hate that mic at the moment.

How to you get that big bastard inside the drum?

 

[Metaltastic]

Stick it in facing down, then angle it once it's inside - took me longer than I'd like to admit to figure that out when using one at school Still, I tried it right up next to the beater head, and found it sucked all the thump out of it; my best results were similar to everyone else, stuck straight in the hole about halfway, pointing at the beater (but off axis of it cuz the hole is rarely cut in a straight line from the beater)

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Yeah thats the way I normally try it. Honestly when I a/b'ed that mic against a Beta 52 the beta won. Really just not diggin that mic for bass drum. I do like it on bass amps though.

 

[Metaltastic]

Oh yeah, I really wasn't fond of it on kick either - WAY too pillowy. But it was the only kick mic available and that was the way we were able to coax the best sound out of it, so I managed!

 

[ahjteam]

...btw, have you tried the mics at the bottom of the drum? I was mixing this g-n-r'ish band live and because I was a lazy bastard, I just popped D112 in without a micstand, just the mic laying on its side at the bottom of the drum on the foam, approximately at the middle of the drum.

http://www.ahjteam.com/upload/14_Mental_Fix.mp3 and http://www.myspace.com/piecemakerband -> Service Ball... the sound is the same stuff that came out from the mixing consoles main outs, no further mixing involved, thats why the guitar/synth balance is what it is, the guitars came pretty loud from the stage compared to synth

 

[Pete The Elite]

I'm going to go ahead and try this the next time I track since I hate that mic at the moment.

How to you get that big bastard inside the drum?

Its easiest to either cut a big hole in your front bass skin to allow you to get in out of it, or just take the thing off completely, i find that a pillow resting on the skin helps the sound too.