DE said:
I'll post a lenghty post in a few hours--I need to get some work done here.
But I will point out the obvious: you're British, and Im a Yank. Knowing this, changes a great deal of our rather superficial argument.
9/11 in 2006.... 5 years have passed and not much has changed
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I'll post a lenghty post in a few hours--I need to get some work done here.
But I will point out the obvious: you're British, and Im a Yank. Knowing this, changes a great deal of our rather superficial argument.
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DE said:
Ok.
I stated things are much different because your a brit, and Im a yank (as you call us) right? Well, all of your comments on the media are through a British lens. I started watching the BBC and reading the Times and the Guardian to get my news on the world! Thats how skewed American media is. Keith Olberman is the only consistent liberal-style corruption based commentator on in the U.S. The McLaughlin report is pretty striaghtforward as well. However, if you read a U.S. paper (besides the NY Times--in addition, all other papers get their world and national news of the AP or Reuters wire service--same articles in every paper) or watch any U.S. t.v. news program, you'd see immediately how sanitized our news is. This is perhaps because our news is using information given to it by the Pentagon, White House, and because almost the entirety of our news services are owned by seven large corporate conglomerates.
As for corporations. Adam Smith did not trust large corporations, and thought they ruined capitalism and became corrupt. He believed there must be a number of competitors. This has been lost in our current climate. How does one fix it? Frankly, I dont know. I do know it was the intention of the Fed and Greenspan to create super-corporations, corporations that are so large, they can withstand economic crises, and compete with anyone on a increasingly liberalized and open world market. He's quoted as saying this when he stepped down--it was one of his enduring legacies he thought.
The problem with the tax breaks, is that companies are scheming through lobbyists and donations to get them, and instead of reinvesting their higer profits into wages, labor, R and D, and new capital, they are passing on the profits to stockholders. In essence, middle class and lower middle class Americans are supporting wealthy stockholders (although the smart ones who've invested in the stock market, have benefitted quite well).
I never said anything about imposing restrictions on companies for labor or outsourcing--you implied this. With the globalized market today, and the poorly trained technical American workforce, this would be impossible. I see it as a irreversable trend. We never should have taught the rest of the world our secrets; this with the greed of capitalism by shaving money off labor costs, will ultimately lead to some major economic problems for the average Western worker. It already is happening.
Your'e being dismissive about corruption. You brushed it aside as being perpetual and unimportant. Now we know historically this is untrue. When corruption increase, states fall. Athens, Rome, the Caliphate, Chinese, Ottomans, French, British, even the Soviets, and now us (America).
DE said:
An American man writing to a British man has to be excessively formal, or the British man assumes he's a fellow homosexual and seduces him. Americans, desperately afraid of saying something that would offend a special interest group, often go along with homosexual seductions and gang rape to avoid being seen as biased.
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